Is the Coronavirus threat being overegged?

[mrswah]

I think we're very lucky to live in the United Kingdom. Most of us have had our incomes secured and have a home to retreat to. If we do fall ill we have a good heathcare system with dedicated staff doing everything they can to help us. There are other countries where people have no secure income and no secure homes they can retreat to. If they fall ill they don't have the healthcare they need to get them well or to ease their suffering.

Like you, I'm one of the fortunate ones, but I fear there are many people, even in the UK, who are not. There are those in high rise flats with no outdoor space, and two or three kids. There are people living with violent,  and/or alcoholic partners, or partners with health problems. There are elderly people living in their own homes, and reliant on carers who may or may not turn up. There are teenagers, not allowed to see their boyfriends/girlfriends, and having to live with their parents with whom they might not get on. And, of course, there are people at home who have coronavirus, and who are terrified and/or alone, and nobody is going to attend to them unless they become dangerously ill. 

The list could go on-----and on-------

[Brietta]

I would prefer an approach similar to Swedens:

In contrast with other countries where political leaders have fronted the national response to the crisis, Dr Tegnell has led the majority of news conferences.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52395866

His tone is typically matter of fact, with a strong focus on figures, and few mentions of the emotional impact of the crisis on victims and their families.

I would imagine those who lived through WW2 are wondering what all the fuss is about.

Not those of them who may be resident in care homes watching their friends dying around them.  I think they may be fussing a little about that 👵👴👨‍🦳👩‍🦳

[Brietta]

Like you, I'm one of the fortunate ones, but I fear there are many people, even in the UK, who are not. There are those in high rise flats with no outdoor space, and two or three kids. There are people living with violent,  and/or alcoholic partners, or partners with health problems. There are elderly people living in their own homes, and reliant on carers who may or may not turn up. There are teenagers, not allowed to see their boyfriends/girlfriends, and having to live with their parents with whom they might not get on. And, of course, there are people at home who have coronavirus, and who are terrified and/or alone, and nobody is going to attend to them unless they become dangerously ill. 

The list could go on-----and on-------

A post which tells it as it is for so many people living in Great Britain today.  I think we will have to prepare for future changes to our way of life for quite some time to come.  Even those of us who think we are are getting off relatively unscathed will find change which could never have been envisaged just months ago.  Let us hope all for the good although we shall see and it is not something to be complacent about.

[Holly Goodhead]

Like you, I'm one of the fortunate ones, but I fear there are many people, even in the UK, who are not. There are those in high rise flats with no outdoor space, and two or three kids. There are people living with violent,  and/or alcoholic partners, or partners with health problems. There are elderly people living in their own homes, and reliant on carers who may or may not turn up. There are teenagers, not allowed to see their boyfriends/girlfriends, and having to live with their parents with whom they might not get on. And, of course, there are people at home who have coronavirus, and who are terrified and/or alone, and nobody is going to attend to them unless they become dangerously ill. 

The list could go on-----and on-------

But these sorts of problems have always existed pandemic or no pandemic.

Those in high rise flats are never going to face flooding!  If they don't like it move!  And why procreate if the accommodation is unsuitable!?

Those with violent and/or abusive partners need to find it in themselves to break free and end the relationship.

No teenager is going to come to any harm because he/she can't hook up with his/her girlfriend/boyfriend  for a few weeks or even longer. 

Of course the sick and elderly need taking care of. 

[Holly Goodhead]

Not those of them who may be resident in care homes watching their friends dying around them.  I think they may be fussing a little about that 👵👴👨‍🦳👩‍🦳

How many residents in care homes died last year from all causes over the time period since the first covid case in UK to date? 

How many residents in care homes have died this year from all causes since the first covid case in UK to date and what % from covid? 

[Holly Goodhead]

A post which tells it as it is for so many people living in Great Britain today.  I think we will have to prepare for future changes to our way of life for quite some time to come.  Even those of us who think we are are getting off relatively unscathed will find change which could never have been envisaged just months ago.  Let us hope all for the good although we shall see and it is not something to be complacent about.

It was all going to fall apart at some stage as nothing about current models is sustainable.

[mrswah]

But these sorts of problems have always existed pandemic or no pandemic.

Those in high rise flats are never going to face flooding!  If they don't like it move!  And why procreate if the accommodation is unsuitable!?

Those with violent and/or abusive partners need to find it in themselves to break free and end the relationship.

No teenager is going to come to any harm because he/she can't hook up with his/her girlfriend/boyfriend  for a few weeks or even longer. 

Of course the sick and elderly need taking care of.

Yes, social problems have always existed, but they must be accentuated if one has to remain in the same home as a partner who is causing them harm. Normally, one can "escape" for a while, or stay somewhere else, or even go to work!

Teenagers can be very emotional. I would guess that being parted from someone they love (or think they love) might even lead to suicide attempts, or actual suicide in a vulnerable individual.

Many people don't choose to live in high rise flats: it is all they can afford. As for leaving an abusive relationship, people don't for a number of reasons: they can't afford to, or, despite everything, they need the "status" of having a partner, or they have children and wont leave them.

There will be a number of people who have lost their jobs and cant make ends meet. They no longer love their partners. Their kids are getting on their nerves. Throw alcohol into the mix, and all kinds of awful things can happen.

[G-Unit]

Like you, I'm one of the fortunate ones, but I fear there are many people, even in the UK, who are not. There are those in high rise flats with no outdoor space, and two or three kids. There are people living with violent,  and/or alcoholic partners, or partners with health problems. There are elderly people living in their own homes, and reliant on carers who may or may not turn up. There are teenagers, not allowed to see their boyfriends/girlfriends, and having to live with their parents with whom they might not get on. And, of course, there are people at home who have coronavirus, and who are terrified and/or alone, and nobody is going to attend to them unless they become dangerously ill. 

The list could go on-----and on-------

I did say most of us....

[Vertigo Swirl]

But these sorts of problems have always existed pandemic or no pandemic.

Those in high rise flats are never going to face flooding!  If they don't like it move!  And why procreate if the accommodation is unsuitable!?

Those with violent and/or abusive partners need to find it in themselves to break free and end the relationship.

No teenager is going to come to any harm because he/she can't hook up with his/her girlfriend/boyfriend  for a few weeks or even longer. 

Of course the sick and elderly need taking care of.

Those in high rise flats are never going to face flooding! No but they stand an increased risk of burning to death.
  If they don't like it move! And how are they going to do that in the midst of the Covid lockdown?
And why procreate if the accommodation is unsuitable!? Did you consider the possibility that they procreated first, and ended up for reasons beyond their control in accomodation that is not ideal?
Those with violent and/or abusive partners need to find it in themselves to break free and end the relationship And where would you reccomend the go in the midst of Covid lockdown?
No teenager is going to come to any harm because he/she can't hook up with his/her girlfriend/boyfriend  for a few weeks or even longer - one teenager that I know of has already "come to harm" because he couldn't bear the prospect of not seeing his girlfriend for months.  https://www.yorkmix.com/brighton-boy-16-missing-after-trying-to-walk-280-miles-to-pocklington-to-see-his-girlfriend/
Of course the sick and elderly need taking care of. Evidence that you do have a heart after all, I guess that's something.

[Holly Goodhead]

Has anyone here knowingly contracted Covid?  Or personally knows of anyone directly or indirectly? 

[Holly Goodhead]

Anyone suffering domestic abuse is encouraged to contact the police.

[barrier]

Has anyone here knowingly contracted Covid?  Or personally knows of anyone directly or indirectly?

Nope.

[Erngath]

Has anyone here knowingly contracted Covid?  Or personally knows of anyone directly or indirectly?

Yes.
Our nephew who has thankfully recovered .
My grand daughter's friend's mum who I  have met many times and is a nurse in Glasgow..
ETA.
He recovered at home.
She is still recovering in hospital.

[mrswah]

Has anyone here knowingly contracted Covid?  Or personally knows of anyone directly or indirectly?

Son in law's brother did (mildly), and also his wife (taken to hospital, but didn't have to stay in). Both live in London.

[Vertigo Swirl]

My window cleaner died of it.