Former Scotland Yard detective exposes cover up within the MET.

[Mr Gray]

The relevance is very obvious. McCann case MET police.

Then it's no more relevant to the mccann case than to every other case the met are investigating.
So every report of corruption and criminal activity in the pJ is relevant to the mccann case

[Mr Gray]

I haven't had chance to watch the video yet...have any of his claims re abuse been substantiated..
I saw this statement from him


But in a series of videoed interviews sent to the consumerwatchfoundation.com Wedger, who now lives on his police pension, says the upper echelons of British society are riddled with Satanic abuse

[kizzy]

I haven't had a good look yet but this person seems to be impressed by R D Hall....believes the McCanns are guilty..and doesn't seem to understand the evidence in the case. I've no doubt there are elements of corruption in the Met as there are with any police organisation.....But apart from his view that Kate should repent to Jesus before being possessed by Satan...I don't see the relevance to the case

How is he impressed by RDH - or doesn't understand the evidence in mcc case

It would be interesting to see how you know this.

[kizzy]

Then it's no more relevant to the mccann case than to every other case the met are investigating.
So every report of corruption and criminal activity in the pJ is relevant to the mccann case

But surely it must make you wonder - could they be covering up evidence that could put the blame elsewhere.

Is this why they keep wanting more money to keep it live - so no one else can take over.

[kizzy]

I haven't had chance to watch the video yet...have any of his claims re abuse been substantiated..
I saw this statement from him


But in a series of videoed interviews sent to the consumerwatchfoundation.com Wedger, who now lives on his police pension, says the upper echelons of British society are riddled with Satanic abuse

IMO you should have watched it before you commented - instead of coming straight in to ridicule him.

[Brietta]

But surely it must make you wonder - could they be covering up evidence that could put the blame elsewhere.

Is this why they keep wanting more money to keep it live - so no one else can take over.

Who do you think would take over Madeleine's investigation if the police weren't doing it?

[Eleanor]

Is anyone suggesting that The McCanns could be guilty of Child Abuse.  Or are they saying that a Child Abuse Ring could be involved in Madeleine's disappearance?

Two entirely different things, surely.

[G-Unit]

And therefore they will ignore any information, facts, suspicions that Madeleine's parents were involved in her disappearance?

Colin Sutton said that the case had areas which were off limits to investigators.

[Erngath]

IMO you should have watched it before you commented - instead of coming straight in to ridicule him.

I have watched it.
Did I miss a reference to Madeleine's disappearance?

[Erngath]

Colin Sutton said that the case had areas which were off limits to investigators.

How does he know that?
Do you believe that these "areas" would be any "areas" which could be related to Madeleine's parents being involved?

[Mr Gray]

IMO you should have watched it before you commented - instead of coming straight in to ridicule him.

Perhaps you should have done some research into his background before listening to it...it seems he's something of a fantasist imo...he claims the coconut shell in Jersey was actually human bone from a 4 to  10 year-old...it seems he has history of making false claims.
He claims he's been told the McCann's were swingers...Maddie was sedated and the residual sedative killed her...he seems to believe this and thinks it's possible Maddie was sexually abused.

A veritable crackpot

[Mr Gray]

Colin Sutton said that the case had areas which were off limits to investigators.

Cite....are you changing his words to suit your agenda

[G-Unit]

How does he know that?
Do you believe that these "areas" would be any "areas" which could be related to Madeleine's parents being involved?

He says he was told. The remit said Operation Grange was going to investigate as if the abduction occured in the UK. Do you think her parents abducted her?

[kizzy]

I have watched it.
Did I miss a reference to Madeleine's disappearance?

Did I say there was one - think you should look back on that.



but there is a mention 36 mins into it

[Erngath]

He says he was told. The remit said Operation Grange was going to investigate as if the abduction occured in the UK. Do you think her parents abducted her?

Yes I know he says he was told that.

Could you answer my original question.
Do you think it possible that during all the past years of Operation Grange that any fact, information or suspicion that Madeleine's parents were involved in her disappearance would be ignored or covered up?