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Offline Brietta

Re: Former Scotland Yard detective exposes cover up within the MET.
« Reply #150 on: March 13, 2020, 01:52:36 PM »

Same it seems as they took mccs at face value,

Did the Judicial Police take Madeleine's parents at 'face value' too?  They were exhaustively investigated by the PJ without any charges being laid and lo and behold the PJ too have reopened Madeleine's case.
So are they in the alleged coverup conspiracy too alongside the met or do you think they have a coverup of their own?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Lace

Re: Former Scotland Yard detective exposes cover up within the MET.
« Reply #151 on: March 13, 2020, 02:08:48 PM »
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There are coverups the thread is about coverups in the Met - these are the people looking for Maddie.

The Police looking for Madeleine are Operation Grange.   Four officers.   

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Former Scotland Yard detective exposes cover up within the MET.
« Reply #152 on: March 13, 2020, 03:03:25 PM »
Did the Judicial Police take Madeleine's parents at 'face value' too?  They were exhaustively investigated by the PJ without any charges being laid and lo and behold the PJ too have reopened Madeleine's case.
So are they in the alleged coverup conspiracy too alongside the met or do you think they have a coverup of their own?

Nonsense. They were only starting to investigate them when Amaral was removed. They were only arguido for a month when they ran back home.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Former Scotland Yard detective exposes cover up within the MET.
« Reply #153 on: March 13, 2020, 05:44:15 PM »
Nonsense. They were only starting to investigate them when Amaral was removed. They were only arguido for a month when they ran back home.

The McCanns left Portugal with the permission of The PJ.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Former Scotland Yard detective exposes cover up within the MET.
« Reply #154 on: March 13, 2020, 08:37:05 PM »
Did the Judicial Police take Madeleine's parents at 'face value' too?  They were exhaustively investigated by the PJ without any charges being laid and lo and behold the PJ too have reopened Madeleine's case.
So are they in the alleged coverup conspiracy too alongside the met or do you think they have a coverup of their own?

I know Mr Mitchell said the McCanns were thoroughly investigated by the PJ, but I have seen no evidence that they were.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Former Scotland Yard detective exposes cover up within the MET.
« Reply #155 on: March 13, 2020, 08:46:35 PM »
I know Mr Mitchell said the McCanns were thoroughly investigated by the PJ, but I have seen no evidence that they were.
Why weren’t they then?  This is the PJ we’re talking about, not Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee! 
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Former Scotland Yard detective exposes cover up within the MET.
« Reply #156 on: March 13, 2020, 09:16:58 PM »
I know Mr Mitchell said the McCanns were thoroughly investigated by the PJ, but I have seen no evidence that they were.

You think that The PJ were totally incompetent?

Okay.  The PJ totally overlooked whatever The McCanns were up to for what reason?

The truth is that Goncalo Amaral thought that he had just got his out of jail card.  From which comes every cover up that ever happened in Portugal.

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« Reply #157 on: March 13, 2020, 09:41:49 PM »
Why weren’t they then?  This is the PJ we’re talking about, not Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee!

Clearly you have no knowledge of any evidence of this alleged 'exhaustive' investigating.
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« Reply #158 on: March 13, 2020, 09:43:34 PM »
You think that The PJ were totally incompetent?

Okay.  The PJ totally overlooked whatever The McCanns were up to for what reason?

The truth is that Goncalo Amaral thought that he had just got his out of jail card.  From which comes every cover up that ever happened in Portugal.

I think nothing. I asked for evidence of the alleged 'exhaustive' investigation of the McCanns.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #159 on: March 13, 2020, 10:03:37 PM »
Clearly you have no knowledge of any evidence of this alleged 'exhaustive' investigating.
Strange that you would be promoting the idea that the PJ were completely incompetent having so often defended them in the past.
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Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #160 on: March 13, 2020, 11:06:23 PM »

Either The PJ did a good job, or they didn't.  Do we actually have to debate this now?

Amaral had six months and found nothing.  Him and his so called army.  It wasn't just Amaral who found nothing, as some of you are so keen to tell me.  His entire team were convinced that The McCanns were involved.  So how come that none of them ever found anything?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #161 on: March 13, 2020, 11:09:33 PM »
Either The PJ did a good job, or they didn't.  Do we actually have to debate this now?

Amaral had six months and found nothing.  Him and his so called army.  It wasn't just Amaral who found nothing, as some of you are so keen to tell me.  His entire team were convinced that The McCanns were involved.  So how come that none of them ever found anything?
Be Use according to G-Unit the PJ never bothered to investigate them.  What lazy articles!
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Offline Brietta

Re: Former Scotland Yard detective exposes cover up within the MET.
« Reply #162 on: March 13, 2020, 11:20:17 PM »
There is a conspiracy theory being promoted that a "Former Scotland Yard detective exposes cover up within the MET."

Let alone that there is absolutely no suggestion made that the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance has been compromised ... to date ... apart from the original claim ... there has been nothing posted here to support the allegation that the abuse of children is being routinely covered up by the London police.

What is positive is that we do have evidence that whistleblowers have in the past led the police on a merry dance because they were ~ and sadly still sometimes are ~ believed prior to evidence of their claims being established.
Perhaps the lesson which has been learned from that experience is that before jumping in with both feet on the word of one individual ... no matter who that individual may be ... the police are checking the facts of the case before acting.

I think that following the evidence in all cases is definitely the way to proceed ... and if there is no such evidence as we have seen, it isn't an idea to ignore that and fire ahead regardless. 
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Former Scotland Yard detective exposes cover up within the MET.
« Reply #163 on: March 13, 2020, 11:50:55 PM »
Be Use according to G-Unit the PJ never bothered to investigate them.  What lazy articles!

Are you and I on the same page here?  Either Amaral investigated this and was then prevented.  Or there never was anything in the first place to do with The McCanns.

How could any of this involve a Cover Up by England?  For why, for God's sake?  One small girl and a couple of provincial doctors.

Look to Portugal, say I.  There was something very peculiar going on there.  Whoever they were they picked on a bad one on that last occasion.

Offline Brietta

Re: Former Scotland Yard detective exposes cover up within the MET.
« Reply #164 on: March 14, 2020, 12:35:38 AM »
Are you and I on the same page here?  Either Amaral investigated this and was then prevented.  Or there never was anything in the first place to do with The McCanns.

How could any of this involve a Cover Up by England?  For why, for God's sake?  One small girl and a couple of provincial doctors.

Look to Portugal, say I.  There was something very peculiar going on there.  Whoever they were they picked on a bad one on that last occasion.

In my opinion it starts and finishes in Portugal.

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Paulo Rebelo, based in Lisbon, takes immediate command of the inquiry, following the dismissal on October 2 of Goncalo Amaral, formerly the chief investigator, and the request by his deputy, Tavares de Almeida, to take a leave of absence.

Yesterday it emerged Mr Almeida is among three officers being investigated over allegations of torture in a seven-year old case. Mr Amaral is also under investigation, accused of concealing evidence relating to an alleged beating of the mother of another disappeared child.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/oct/09/ukcrime.madeleinemccann

I think that must signify a singularly different type of individual assigned to head up an investigation into a missing child than would normally be expected and as far as Madeleine's investigation goes has no British parallel ... and that is without adding Cristovao to the mix.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....