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Offline G-Unit

The shootings in the master bedroom.
« on: March 13, 2020, 09:54:57 PM »
It has been said that the perp was standing at the bottom of the double bed when s/he opened fire. Why then did June Bamber move towards the perp when she got out of bed instead of making for the door nearest to her?
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Offline adam

Re: The shootings in the master bedroom.
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2020, 09:41:08 AM »
Bamber was not in the bedroom when June got out of bed. He was in the kitchen.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The shootings in the master bedroom.
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2020, 10:02:56 AM »
Bamber was not in the bedroom when June got out of bed. He was in the kitchen.

So you are saying that Nevill and June were in bed and the perp fired ten(?) shots from the bottom of the bed. Was that five into June's right hand side and four into Nevill's left hand side?
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Offline adam

Re: The shootings in the master bedroom.
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2020, 10:08:04 AM »
So you are saying that Nevill and June were in bed and the perp fired ten(?) shots from the bottom of the bed. Was that five into June's right hand side and four into Nevill's left hand side?

It was 9 shots. Two more shots were fired into June later.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The shootings in the master bedroom.
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2020, 10:25:50 AM »
It has been said that the perp was standing at the bottom of the double bed when s/he opened fire. Why then did June Bamber move towards the perp when she got out of bed instead of making for the door nearest to her?

All concerned agree June was shot initially when her head was on the pillow as per the blood stains, bullets in pillow and gsw's.  It seems she then moved to leave the bed and as you said all the gsw's at that stage were to her right side.  If NB was in the kitchen on the tel to JB and hearing the sound of gunshot dropped the phone to run upstairs I believe the perp, SC imo, swung round 90 degrees and inflicted the gsw's to NB's face as he was stood on the landing.  NB then turned to retreat downstairs and SC followed leaving June to walk around the bed and back again.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The shootings in the master bedroom.
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2020, 10:29:04 AM »
Just to clarify at trial it was agreed June sustained a total of 7 entry gunshot wounds and 1 bruise only wound.  This is important in context of casings and spent bullets.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline adam

Re: The shootings in the master bedroom.
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2020, 10:40:17 AM »
If the twins were shot first, once each, it shows how confident Bamber was. He believed he could shoot two 6 year olds & the adults would continue sleeping.

The silencer would have helped give him confidence.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The shootings in the master bedroom.
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2020, 10:53:07 AM »
It has been said that the perp was standing at the bottom of the double bed when s/he opened fire. Why then did June Bamber move towards the perp when she got out of bed instead of making for the door nearest to her?

When you consider the distance of shots, the fact NB sustained 2 gsw's to his rear and the trajectories and wound tracks it is impossible to reconcile because it didn't happen that way.

At trial Dr V confirmed the gsw NB sustained to his shoulder was fired from above. NB was 6' 4", JB 6'0", SC 5'7.5" and the rifle 48" long.  Did the perp stand on the bed or chair or shoot from a loft hatch?  The logical answer is NB was positioned below the perp due to the fact he was on the staircase with the perp behind and higher up the staircase.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline adam

Re: The shootings in the master bedroom.
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2020, 10:53:21 AM »
Bamber entered the main bedroom with 9 bullets, intending to fire 8.

That plan went out of the window when Nevill started moving & the rifle was emptied. Which is not surprising as Nevill is a big man & intimidating figure.

If Bamber had entered the main bedroom with 11 bullets, Nevill would have received 6 upstairs shots as Bamber emptied the rifle in panic.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2020, 10:59:17 AM by adam »

Offline adam

Re: The shootings in the master bedroom.
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2020, 11:03:05 AM »
So Julie's claim that the twins were shot first, does make sense.

One bullet each into each sleeping twin would have been the most straight forward of the executions & would have quickly negated 2 of the 5 targets without waking anyone.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2020, 11:05:33 AM by adam »

Offline G-Unit

Re: The shootings in the master bedroom.
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2020, 11:04:02 AM »
It was 9 shots. Two more shots were fired into June later.

So five shots to June's right hand side. They hit the lower part of her neck, her right forearm, two hit the right side of the chest and another her right knee. At the same time Nevill was shot in his left hand side. His injuries included his lip, his jaw, his shoulder and his arm. Were there only nine bullets in the gun?
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Offline adam

Re: The shootings in the master bedroom.
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2020, 11:09:32 AM »
So five shots to June's right hand side. They hit the lower part of her neck, her right forearm, two hit the right side of the chest and another her right knee. At the same time Nevill was shot in his left hand side. His injuries included his lip, his jaw, his shoulder and his arm. Were there only nine bullets in the gun?

If there were 11 bullets, they would have been emptied once Nevill started moving. Only 9 were fired.

There were reasons why he would shoot the twins first with one shot each. Julie said she was told the twins were shot first.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The shootings in the master bedroom.
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2020, 11:15:14 AM »
So Julie's claim that the twins were shot first, does make sense.

One bullet each into each sleeping twin would have been the most straight forward of the executions & would have quickly negated 2 of the 5 targets without waking anyone.

One bullet into each sleeping twin contradicts the pathological evidence.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline adam

Re: The shootings in the master bedroom.
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2020, 11:32:57 AM »
One bullet into each sleeping twin contradicts the pathological evidence.

This is based on the very probable intial attempt by Bamber of an 11 shot massacre.

Two into the twins.

One into Sheila.

Eight into June and Nevill.

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An advantage of this is that Sheila would not have had to reload twice. Bamber could also claim that he left the rifle fully loaded with the magazine attached.

Offline adam

Re: The shootings in the master bedroom.
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2020, 11:41:46 AM »
A successful 11 shot massacre would have had the bedroom phone in the bedroom. Off the hook. As both Nevill & June would have been in there.

Once the 11 shot massacre failed, the other plan was executed - the overkill of a crazed woman.