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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #105 on: March 31, 2020, 04:10:13 PM »
Some people fail to grasp that in  order for people to read and digest their argument it is lost when name calling comes into play- they lose the argument-simple!

The age of the witness is irrelevant as this is evidence from April Jones's " A DVD of police interviews with the seven-year-old, who cannot be identified because of her age, was played to the jury in Mark Bridger's trial at Mold Crown Court.

Five-year-old April vanished while playing with her friend near their homes in Machynlleth, Powys, Mid Wales, on October 1 last year."
(2013 not 2019).




This is irrelevant, goading,untrue and a bit sanctimonious IMO "You’re deliberately trying to tarnish a murder victim, and that’s despicable."


Why not just stick to your argument- a lot of which I agree with, without the childish sniping.


By me pointing out that Helen was just 13-years-old doesn’t mean I’ve lost my argument, Miss Taken.

You’re comparing Helen to a 7-year-old girl who was possibly a more reliable witness as she was too young to be coerced

I’ve explained how police could have interviewed Helen, but you don’t like it because you want to believe that Sheila was some kind of moronic ogre. But she wasn’t: the only evil person in this horrific event is the convicted murderer Jeremy Bamber.

Furthermore, I’m not interested in the Bamber Brigade: they refuse to accept ANY facts which prove JB is a liar and murderer, so anything I say — or anyone else says — will fall on deaf ears.

I’m not going to pretend these odd people are rational when they’ve been mentally seduced by a cold-blooded murderer.
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #106 on: March 31, 2020, 04:12:45 PM »
Did Jeremy Bamber call the police first or Julie ?

On the 7th of August in this statement, He said he called the police immediately, see page 6

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=5631.0

In his 8th of September statement given under caution he reversed the order, see page7,
He said" i was on the phone to her for about two minutes, not long as i had to call the police"

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=294.0

In a futher statement on the 10th of September, The police managed to impress on him this contradiction
for which he had no congruent answer.    see page 17

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=296.0


That’s just ONE of his hundreds of lies...


All his statements were littered with discrepancies, and the reason for that was he lied, lied, lied.

Because he was guilty.
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #107 on: March 31, 2020, 04:16:36 PM »
You can think what you like, but all statements are evidence. Who reported that Jeremy knew what was in his father's wallet?

According to Ferguson Sheila was never given the 400mg of haloperidol a month he had recommended.


It’s handy that all statements are evidence, G-Unit: that means that Jeremy lied in ALL his statements because he kept changing his story!
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #108 on: March 31, 2020, 04:24:12 PM »
Bamber avoids any mention of a second phone call to Julie in this interview from jail with Eric Allison of the Guardian.  I wonder why?...

https://soundcloud.com/phil-garlic/unknown-album


He’s also forgotten he said to police that he took a shower (not a bath), made a sandwich and drink, watched TV until approximately 11pm and then went to bed.

His whole story is different.

He also pauses frequently in his phone call, clearly trying to recall what he’d said previously.

Neither did he mention what he’d told police at the time: that his father phoned him and then the phone cut off as though someone had pressed it down. Had that happened he’d have got the dialling tone...

He’s incredibly thick; a dreadful liar; and thoroughly evil.
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #109 on: March 31, 2020, 04:29:48 PM »

The statement posted on Pinterest DOES say that Sheila had contemplated suicide.

I imagine Helen would have had an adult with her when making her statement, as she was only 13, and perhaps her statement did take the form of answering questions put to her, I have no idea.  However, I'm sure she would have remembered what Sheila had said to her.

Are you honestly suggesting that if anyone says that Sheila smoked cannabis or contemplated suicide, then that person is "tarnishing a murder victim"???  I don't know whether Sheila was a murder victim, or whether she killed her family because she was too ill to be responsible for her actions, but I do believe that yes, she thought of suicide and smoked cannabis. I don't know whether she did it once or more than once, but I have certainly read that she did.  Nobody is telling "vile lies".

Please leave the nasty, personal remarks out of your posts, or they will be deleted-------I thought you would have realised this by now.


Anyone can post on Pininterest; much of it fake.

If you take absolutely everything you read as truth, you can’t be trusted to evaluate.

I’ve never seen ANYWHERE where Sheila had said she wanted to commit suicide; none of her close family or friends said she ever said it, neither did her psychiatrist.

I trust THEM over someone who’s posted something up on Pininterest that may be totally false or alterered.

But then I’m not gullible...
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #110 on: March 31, 2020, 04:40:05 PM »

IMO, quite possibly, if she had been disturbed by it.


If she was THAT disturbed by Sheila’s talk she’d have excused herself and left the room.

I do not believe for a moment that she sat there while Sheila allegedly chain smoked cannabis — people don’t chain smoke cannabis. This is all exaggerations twisted by the police.

Besides, this has all been thrashed out in court — and Jeremy was found guilty

What’s your difficulty with understanding that?
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #111 on: March 31, 2020, 04:41:32 PM »
Who would want to influence Helen's statement?


DCI Taff Jones...that’s who

Haven’t you followed the case?
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #112 on: March 31, 2020, 04:55:02 PM »
The point is, that he knew where the wallet should be and when he couldn't find it 'there' he didn't look anywhere else. How did he know that Nevill didn't leave it in the kitchen or in the safe? He went to one place and immediately knew it was missing. He totally ignored the question when I first asked, he said he didn't remember the question when I asked again and gave an evasive answer the second time (I didn't or no) but then on reading through his letters (looking for something else), I found that he had made reference to looking for the wallet. Finally, in his final letters he gave two excuses for not answering the question - the first that he didn't remember the question and gave the best answer he could, the second was that he didn't the the question was important. Make you own mind up but I know he was squirming around the question from the off.



As Jeremy RAN upstairs to get the wallet (wasn’t frightened then, was he?) he obviously knew exactly where it was. He obviously saw it when he killed them all — Nevill probably had it on his bedside cabinet — and the only reason Jeremy didn’t take it then was that if it was discovered missing it would be further proof Sheila wasn’t the killer.

He planned to collect it after the event, that’s obvious. And seems like he was furious it was missing!

I also believe all that rubbish he put on about being scared to enter the house was done for other people’s benefit. He wasn’t scared at all! He DID go back there, several times, and was extremely jolly as he showed all the goodies to the auctioneer!

He’s just an evil psychopath and I can’t understand how a few people think he’s normal!
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #113 on: March 31, 2020, 04:58:54 PM »
On Monday 12th August Ann invited Jeremy to White House Farm for coffee. She kept a record on note cards and mentions Jeremy asking about Nevill's wallet on them. She also says immediately after "Dad and I almost felt guilty". I wonder why?

The statements and notes are on another forum.


You’re trying to attach too much importance to a throwaway comment

At that time, they all thought (albeit with difficulty) that a Sheila was the culprit and as Jeremy was playacting the scared grief stricken son, they possibly felt guilty for inviting him to WHF where he put on a display of feigned panic and grief.
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Offline Caroline

Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #114 on: March 31, 2020, 05:06:43 PM »

Anyone can post on Pininterest; much of it fake.

If you take absolutely everything you read as truth, you can’t be trusted to evaluate.

I’ve never seen ANYWHERE where Sheila had said she wanted to commit suicide; none of her close family or friends said she ever said it, neither did her psychiatrist.

I trust THEM over someone who’s posted something up on Pininterest that may be totally false or alterered.

But then I’m not gullible...

I can guarantee Ispy that the statement isn't false, it is genuine but I would question how it was obtained, by who and for that purpose.

Offline Caroline

Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #115 on: March 31, 2020, 05:07:26 PM »
Who would want to influence Helen's statement?

The defence!

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #116 on: March 31, 2020, 05:55:24 PM »
I can guarantee Ispy that the statement isn't false, it is genuine but I would question how it was obtained, by who and for that purpose.






I trust what you say, Caroline, but I can’t believe Sheila would have sat chain-smoking cannabis in front of her 13-year-old second cousin, sat in the sitting room of WHF. She only smoked it occasionally (about 4 days prior to Jeremy killing her), so she certainly wasn’t a daily smoker of it, let alone chain-smoked it.

I bet the police twisted Helen’s words and put them to her in such a way to make Sheila sound bad! Sheila did roll her own cigarettes, so the policeman may have planted a seed in young Helen’s mind. Don’t forget, the police behaved appallingy under the guidance of Taff Jones.


I simply don’t believe Sheila would have been so reckless to not only smoke cannabis flagrantly, sat in WHF, but would do so in front of a 13-year-old, and offer her some too!

Colin actually says how Sheila warned him NEVER to smoke pot in front of the twins, which he’d only done once, and had stopped smoking it, anyway....here’s an excerpt from his book:


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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #117 on: March 31, 2020, 05:58:41 PM »
Shall try again....

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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #118 on: March 31, 2020, 05:59:53 PM »
And again....

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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies
« Reply #119 on: March 31, 2020, 06:01:55 PM »
Sorry, posted same on twice....


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