Why did Sheila have an INCREASED amount of Haloperidol in her system?

[Vertigo Swirl]

He wasn't based on the pathology reports.  Or certainly nothing a woman of SC's build was incapable of inflicting.

Yet hard enough to be completely incapacitated while Sheila spent up to a minute reloading?

[The General]

Yet hard enough to be completely incapacitated while Sheila spent up to a minute reloading?

If we assume that a double-handed jabbing motion was used i.e. one hand somewhere on the barrel and the other somewhere on the stock, with the rifle upside down, I contend that it would be physically impossible for a woman of Sheila's frame to exert enough force to produce such injuries. Particularly given that, at this point, she would have been at the point of exhaustion having over-powered and shot Nevill several times.
And all this and not a speck of any sign of this murderous rampage on her.
AUNTIE AGGIE, get that wet suit out of the garage - it's time!

[ISpyWithMyEye]

No one is forcing you to go round in circles.

I’m a new member and I can see how it’s going round and round in circles in the couple of months I’ve been here

You’ve been going round in circles for YEARS, Holly...by your own choice!

[ISpyWithMyEye]

He wasn't based on the pathology reports.  Or certainly nothing a woman of SC's build was incapable of inflicting.

You must be the only person who can think Sheila who was very slim, frail and weak, 5”7” and tranquillised could have overpowered Nevill,  who was 6”4”, fit, in perfect health, strong as an ox from all the heavy farm work he did daily, and beat him to a pulp exposing his brain.

Perhaps you could arrange a reconstruction of that scenario?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

If we assume that a double-handed jabbing motion was used i.e. one hand somewhere on the barrel and the other somewhere on the stock, with the rifle upside down, I contend that it would be physically impossible for a woman of Sheila's frame to exert enough force to produce such injuries. Particularly given that, at this point, she would have been at the point of exhaustion having over-powered and shot Nevill several times.
And all this and not a speck of any sign of this murderous rampage on her.
AUNTIE AGGIE, get that wet suit out of the garage - it's time!

Absolutely spot on!

[Vertigo Swirl]

You must be the only person who can think Sheila who was very slim, frail and weak, 5”7” and tranquillised could have overpowered Nevill,  who was 6”4”, fit, in perfect health, strong as an ox from all the heavy farm work he did daily, and beat him to a pulp exposing his brain.

Perhaps you could arrange a reconstruction of that scenario?

Not only that but for up to a minute she had to stop firing as her gun had run out of ammo!

[The General]

Not only that but for up to a minute she had to stop firing as her gun had run out of ammo!

Twice!

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Not only that but for up to a minute she had to stop firing as her gun had run out of ammo!

And don’t forget the opportunity he missed when phoning Jeremy Sheila supposedly tore into the kitchen, saw he was on the phone, VERY gently pressed her fingers on the buttons to end the call while holding that long rifle with just ONE hand, and Nevill didn’t make a grab for it!

[Nicholas]

And don’t forget the opportunity he missed when phoning Jeremy Sheila supposedly tore into the kitchen, saw he was on the phone, VERY gently pressed her fingers on the buttons to end the call while holding that long rifle with just ONE hand, and Nevill didn’t make a grab for it!

Maybe future forensic testing will produce results/opinions whereby some people have super strength keratin ?

[Caroline]

You must be the only person who can think Sheila who was very slim, frail and weak, 5”7” and tranquillised could have overpowered Nevill,  who was 6”4”, fit, in perfect health, strong as an ox from all the heavy farm work he did daily, and beat him to a pulp exposing his brain.

Perhaps you could arrange a reconstruction of that scenario?

Also, Vanezis believes that Nevill was punched in the face - had she gotten that close, she would have been easily over-powered.

[G-Unit]

Also, Vanezis believes that Nevill was punched in the face - had she gotten that close, she would have been easily over-powered.

Does he? I seem to have missed that in his evidence.

[Caroline]

Does he? I seem to have missed that in his evidence.

Then look a little closer! In his court testimony he agreed that injuries (bruising and lacerations) to the face could have been caused from a 'heavy' blow from a fist (or blunt object). June had a black eye and what looked like finger marks around her neck so someone also got close enough to her to make a physical assault. Jeremy claimed the black eye was pre-murders but no one other than him mentioned seeing it.

[Holly Goodhead]

Then look a little closer! In his court testimony he agreed that injuries (bruising and lacerations) to the face could have been caused from a 'heavy' blow from a fist (or blunt object). June had a black eye and what looked like finger marks around her neck so someone also got close enough to her to make a physical assault. Jeremy claimed the black eye was pre-murders but no one other than him mentioned seeing it.

Thanks.

He does not mention this in his statement of May '86 where he is, asked about NB's non gsw' s.

How did he respond under cross examination on this point?

What did the defence pathologist, Prof Knight, have to say about it?

[Caroline]

Thanks.

He does not mention this in his statement of May '86 where he is, asked about NB's non gsw' s.

How did he respond under cross examination on this point?

What did the defence pathologist, Prof Knight, have to say about it?

He mentions lacerations - at trial he gave an opinion as to how they occurred - so what if he didn't mention it in his statement. If he is asked abou GSW - why would he talk about the other injuries? I have just posted his position as to the blunt trauma injuries, he agreed they could have been caused from a heavy blow from a fist - bust doesn't rule out other blunt objects.

If you want to know what Prof Knight said, you're free to search for his response - if he made one.

[Holly Goodhead]

He mentions lacerations - at trial he gave an opinion as to how they occurred - so what if he didn't mention it in his statement. If he is asked abou GSW - why would he talk about the other injuries? I have just posted his position as to the blunt trauma injuries, he agreed they could have been caused from a heavy blow from a fist - bust doesn't rule out other blunt objects.

If you want to know what Prof Knight said, you're free to search for his response - if he made one.

He was asked to provide a breakdown of NB's wounds both gsw's and non-gsw's. The statement I uploaded covers his response for the non-gsw nose injury.

I thought you said previously NB sustained a broken nose?  I don't believe there's any evidence NB''s nose was broken?

Of course trauma from a blunt object covers numerous possibilities but given it is known all the other injuries were also caused by a blunt object and the butt of the rifle was broken and contained blood smears I think it unlikely any fists were involved.