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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Sheila’s Nightdress
« on: April 08, 2020, 10:36:12 PM »
As we all know, Nevill was beaten in the kitchen.

We all know Jeremy Bamber was found guilty at his trial in 1986

However, a few people seem to think it was Sheila who beat Nevill in the kitchen.

My question is: why wasn’t ONE trace of Sheila on Nevill’s body?

Not one hair, not one drop of her blood, no broken fingernail, and not ONE single fibre from her light blue nightdress.

Nevill wore dark blue pyjamas which were taken to forensics along with Sheila’s nightdress. So why didn’t they find ONE fibre of her nightdress on Nevill?

I know a few people suggest that Sheila did “ritual bathing” after supposedly killing her parents and her beloved little sons, but Nevill didn’t take a bath, so why didn’t they find any fibres of Sheilas nightdress on him? Nor ONE of her hairs?
« Last Edit: April 08, 2020, 10:54:32 PM by Ispywithmybigeye »
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Sheila’s Nightdress
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2020, 07:37:04 AM »
There's no evidence the perp ever came into close contact with the victims whether it be to inflict the gsw's or the non gsw's NB sustained.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline APRIL

Re: Sheila’s Nightdress
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2020, 08:52:37 AM »
There's no evidence the perp ever came into close contact with the victims whether it be to inflict the gsw's or the non gsw's NB sustained.


With the gsw's there was always going to be at least the length of the rifle between him and them. With the non gsw's, I don't believe it to have been possible to have inflicted a brain exposing head wound by holding the barrel end of the rifle..................Sheila certainly couldn't have.

Offline The General

Re: Sheila’s Nightdress
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2020, 10:40:38 AM »

With the gsw's there was always going to be at least the length of the rifle between him and them. With the non gsw's, I don't believe it to have been possible to have inflicted a brain exposing head wound by holding the barrel end of the rifle..................Sheila certainly couldn't have.
The beating with the rifle butt came after a couple of GSW's I assume? There's no way, in my opinion, a woman of her stature could inflict such a wound to Nevil without him being incapacitated in some way. even logistically, rifle butt to head of a man over 6ft tall.
While he was on all fours or scrabbling around trying to get up, yes, possible, but again, in my opinion, not for a relatively slight woman to perpetrate in a double handed jabbing motion, it would have to be a double handed swing to attain enough momentum - and such a blow is relatively easy to evade  / block when not incapacitated.
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Re: Sheila’s Nightdress
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2020, 10:54:25 AM »
The beating with the rifle butt came after a couple of GSW's I assume? There's no way, in my opinion, a woman of her stature could inflict such a wound to Nevil without him being incapacitated in some way. even logistically, rifle butt to head of a man over 6ft tall.
While he was on all fours or scrabbling around trying to get up, yes, possible, but again, in my opinion, not for a relatively slight woman to perpetrate in a double handed jabbing motion, it would have to be a double handed swing to attain enough momentum - and such a blow is relatively easy to evade  / block when not incapacitated.


Before all else, there isn't a balance between an angry and psychotic Sheila inflicting those terrible wounds, with a Sheila who calmly attempts to hide evidence of her crimes before shooting herself. It simply doesn't make sense.

It would make sense to believe the head wound, placed as it was, was carried out from behind him, but it begs the question why would he turn his back on someone with a gun? Perhaps, already wounded, disorientation/giddiness? But then, there's the question of his superior height. It makes better sense to believe he was already seated when the first blow struck. It seems to me that, at that point, a bullet to the back of the head would have sufficed. Jeremy clearly wanted to draw out his death to cause him as much suffering as possible.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sheila’s Nightdress
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2020, 10:56:48 AM »
The beating with the rifle butt came after a couple of GSW's I assume? There's no way, in my opinion, a woman of her stature could inflict such a wound to Nevil without him being incapacitated in some way. even logistically, rifle butt to head of a man over 6ft tall.
While he was on all fours or scrabbling around trying to get up, yes, possible, but again, in my opinion, not for a relatively slight woman to perpetrate in a double handed jabbing motion, it would have to be a double handed swing to attain enough momentum - and such a blow is relatively easy to evade  / block when not incapacitated.

Nevill recieved 4 shots to his head in the kitchen, all fatal shots. Therefore it can be assumed he recieved 4 other shots elsewhere. One broke his jaw. Another broke his left arm. One went through his lip and the fourth grazed his left arm. (I think). Assuming there was a struggle after these four wounds were inflicted he would have been extremely incapacitated.
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Sheila’s Nightdress
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2020, 11:02:13 AM »
There's no evidence the perp ever came into close contact with the victims whether it be to inflict the gsw's or the non gsw's NB sustained.

The perp, Jeremy Bamber, smashed Nevill’s head to bits exposing his brain

The perp, Jeremy Bamber, struggled violently as Nevill tried to disarm him and get the gun off him

And you’re saying Jeremy wasn’t in close contact?
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Sheila’s Nightdress
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2020, 11:10:28 AM »

Before all else, there isn't a balance between an angry and psychotic Sheila inflicting those terrible wounds, with a Sheila who calmly attempts to hide evidence of her crimes before shooting herself. It simply doesn't make sense.

It would make sense to believe the head wound, placed as it was, was carried out from behind him, but it begs the question why would he turn his back on someone with a gun? Perhaps, already wounded, disorientation/giddiness? But then, there's the question of his superior height. It makes better sense to believe he was already seated when the first blow struck. It seems to me that, at that point, a bullet to the back of the head would have sufficed. Jeremy clearly wanted to draw out his death to cause him as much suffering as possible.

That’s exactly what the police officer said, April

He said, and I quote:  “He certainly made Nevill and June suffer”

He must have released all his lent-up psychopathic hate in that attack. He even viciously beat Nevill AFTER he was dead.

But back to my question, considering  such force was used and a struggle definitely took place, resulting in Nevill’s pyjamas falling down, its blatantly obvious that fibres from Sheila’s nightdress would have been on those pyjamas and probably  in his hair too. Forensics absolutely love head hair for some reason...

So why wasn’t ANY of her nightdress fibres on Nevill? Not even one single hair of hers which WOULD have shed in such a violent struggle?
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Sheila’s Nightdress
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2020, 11:14:15 AM »
Nevill recieved 4 shots to his head in the kitchen, all fatal shots. Therefore it can be assumed he recieved 4 other shots elsewhere. One broke his jaw. Another broke his left arm. One went through his lip and the fourth grazed his left arm. (I think). Assuming there was a struggle after these four wounds were inflicted he would have been extremely incapacitated.


Nevill wasn’t incapacitated enough to make his way into the kitchen aftr being shot in the face and shoulder upstairs on the landing....

So how do you explain the fact not ONE pale blue fibre was found on Nevill?

Forensics say it’s actually impossible NOT to leave a fibre even if you’ve just brushed through a door, or simply gone into a room!

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Offline APRIL

Re: Sheila’s Nightdress
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2020, 11:26:45 AM »
That’s exactly what the police officer said, April

He said, and I quote:  “He certainly made Nevill and June suffer”

He must have released all his lent-up psychopathic hate in that attack. He even viciously beat Nevill AFTER he was dead.

But back to my question, considering  such force was used and a struggle definitely took place, resulting in Nevill’s pyjamas falling down, its blatantly obvious that fibres from Sheila’s nightdress would have been on those pyjamas and probably  in his hair too. Forensics absolutely love head hair for some reason...

So why wasn’t ANY of her nightdress fibres on Nevill? Not even one single hair of hers which WOULD have shed in such a violent struggle?

It's interesting that such store was placed on the one colourless, and subsequently, disappearing hair, allegedly attached to the silencer/moderator, whilst it appeared that there was no hair/blood/brain tissue attached to the stock which had had such violent contact with his skull. More interesting than why were there no traces of Sheila on Nevill, from such close proximity, why were there no traces of Nevill on Sheila?

Offline G-Unit

Re: Sheila’s Nightdress
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2020, 11:30:48 AM »
As we all know, Nevill was beaten in the kitchen.

We all know Jeremy Bamber was found guilty at his trial in 1986

However, a few people seem to think it was Sheila who beat Nevill in the kitchen.

My question is: why wasn’t ONE trace of Sheila on Nevill’s body?

Not one hair, not one drop of her blood, no broken fingernail, and not ONE single fibre from her light blue nightdress.

Nevill wore dark blue pyjamas which were taken to forensics along with Sheila’s nightdress. So why didn’t they find ONE fibre of her nightdress on Nevill?

I know a few people suggest that Sheila did “ritual bathing” after supposedly killing her parents and her beloved little sons, but Nevill didn’t take a bath, so why didn’t they find any fibres of Sheilas nightdress on him? Nor ONE of her hairs?

As far as I know only the blood on the nightdress was tested. I can find no record of any clothes being examined for fibres or hairs.
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Re: Sheila’s Nightdress
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2020, 11:37:57 AM »
As far as I know only the blood on the nightdress was tested. I can find no record of any clothes being examined for fibres or hairs.


What other clothes would there have been? I doubt she took more than one change of clothes with her -suggested by what appears to have been washed through leggings hanging from the banister rail- I can't think why anything, other than that which she was wearing would have need of being tested.

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Re: Sheila’s Nightdress
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2020, 11:41:25 AM »

What other clothes would there have been? I doubt she took more than one change of clothes with her -suggested by what appears to have been washed through leggings hanging from the banister rail- I can't think why anything, other than that which she was wearing would have need of being tested.

I was referring to those on the bodies.
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Re: Sheila’s Nightdress
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2020, 11:53:32 AM »
I was referring to those on the bodies.


Not finding any isn't indicative of there being none.

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Re: Sheila’s Nightdress
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2020, 01:07:59 PM »
As far as I know only the blood on the nightdress was tested. I can find no record of any clothes being examined for fibres or hairs.


Surely, fibres and hairs would have been looked for and tested???  In the days before DNA was used in forensic testing, fibres would have been very important??