Nevill was first shot as he exited his bedroom.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I couldn't get my head around that; why not shove a load of rounds in his pockets prior to the killing spree?
(This is The General asking this time)

guess wetsuits don’t have pockets.

[G-Unit]

If you read my post you’d know I never said that at all!

I said Nevill jumped up to try and disarm Jeremy but the coward had ran backwards into the landing giving himself enough space to shoot Nevill.

Nevill didn’t leave June for goodness sake! Jeremy shot her dead at the door ...Nevill had to endure the horror of witnessing that!

That evil cowardly lump is a monster.

So Jeremy fired at Nevill (inside the bedroom) from the landing? How did the cartridge cases end up in the bedroom then?

[The General]

So Jeremy fired at Nevill (inside the bedroom) from the landing? How did the cartridge cases end up in the bedroom then?

In fairness the cases eject out right with some velocity. They could ricochet quite a distance.
Were both SC and JB right handed?

[G-Unit]

In fairness the cases eject out right with some velocity. They could ricochet quite a distance.
Were both SC and JB right handed?

Nevertheless if Jeremy was on the landing the cases wouldn't go into the bedroom, they would go onto the stairs.

[Vertigo Swirl]

There seems to be a view amongst some supporters that Nevill phoned Jeremy before he was shot, and said “Sheila’s going crazy, she’s got a gun”.  In order for him to know she had a gun he would either have had to see her with one or have heard the shots.  If he saw her with the gun first, then he must have encountered her downstairs before the shooting had begun, so why did he stay downstairs and not rush up the stairs as soon as he heard the first shot being fired?  In fact why did he wait downstairs until all the shooting had finished upstairs, whilst still on the phone waiting for Sheila to come back downstairs and cut the phone off?  Ah, but hang on, Nevill did go upstairs and get shot, which must have happened after the phone call that Sheila cut him off during because he wouldn’t have been able to speak after being shot, well why didn’t she shoot him downstairs then, why did she allow him to follow her up the stairs?  No, I can’t make any of this make any sense.  Help!

Just a reminder about what this thread is about, which I apparently started (though I don’t know why I’vd given it the title it has been given - was it changed?).

[Vertigo Swirl]

If Nevill was downstairs when he saw Sheila going crazy and taking a gun upstairs, why was his first action to phone his son, and not follow her up the stairs?

[Holly Goodhead]

Just a reminder about what this thread is about, which I apparently started (though I don’t know why I’vd given it the title it has been given - was it changed?).

Was this the thread you set up 'How did Sheila commit the killings?' I spent ages looking for it yesterday 

[Holly Goodhead]

guess wetsuits don’t have pockets.

A bandolier was found hanging up on the unused staircase leading out the kitchen.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Was this the thread you set up 'How did Sheila commit the killings?' I spent ages looking for it yesterday 

Probably.  It certainly wasn’t me who renamed it though.

[Holly Goodhead]

If Nevill was downstairs when he saw Sheila going crazy and taking a gun upstairs, why was his first action to phone his son, and not follow her up the stairs?

Re one of your earlier posts, there's no evidence SC cut the phone off?  A GPO operator was able to listen in on the line which I don't believe would be possible had a call been made and then cut off senders end?  Regardless there's no evidence SC cut the phone off.  It's not something I believe happened.

The small calibre rifle with subsonic ammo sans silencer has a quiet muzzle blast.  Tne bedroom was some distance from the kitchen and obviously you're looking at a solidly built farmhouse not a Wimpy 2 bed new build.  It could be that NB didn't hear the first shots to June.

The rifle will sound totally different inside a property with soft furnishings and furniture than it will sound when fired outside.

[Caroline]

I couldn't get my head around that; why not shove a load of rounds in his pockets prior to the killing spree?
(This is The General asking this time)

Perhaps he didn't anticipate how many rounds he would require.

[Holly Goodhead]

Perhaps he didn't anticipate how many rounds he would require.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11191.msg570652#msg570652

[Vertigo Swirl]

Re one of your earlier posts, there's no evidence SC cut the phone off?  A GPO operator was able to listen in on the line which I don't believe would be possible had a call been made and then cut off senders end?  Regardless there's no evidence SC cut the phone off.  It's not something I believe happened.

The small calibre rifle with subsonic ammo sans silencer has a quiet muzzle blast.  Tne bedroom was some distance from the kitchen and obviously you're looking at a solidly built farmhouse not a Wimpy 2 bed new build.  It could be that NB didn't hear the first shots to June.

The rifle will sound totally different inside a property with soft furnishings and furniture than it will sound when fired outside.

If the phone didn’t cut off how come Bamber claimed he got an engaged signal when he phoned back and how was Bamber able to phone JM (or was it the police?) if the line to WHF was still connected to his phone?

Furthermore if Nevill didn’t see Sheila go upstairs with a gun how would he know a) that it was Sheila firing it and b) that she had “gone crazy”?

[Caroline]

In fairness the cases eject out right with some velocity. They could ricochet quite a distance.
Were both SC and JB right handed?

Yes.

[Caroline]

Re one of your earlier posts, there's no evidence SC cut the phone off?  A GPO operator was able to listen in on the line which I don't believe would be possible had a call been made and then cut off senders end? Regardless there's no evidence SC cut the phone off.  It's not something I believe happened.

The small calibre rifle with subsonic ammo sans silencer has a quiet muzzle blast.  Tne bedroom was some distance from the kitchen and obviously you're looking at a solidly built farmhouse not a Wimpy 2 bed new build.  It could be that NB didn't hear the first shots to June.

The rifle will sound totally different inside a property with soft furnishings and furniture than it will sound when fired outside.

The operator could cut into the line even if it had been disconnected by cutting off the call.