Did Jeremy Bamber exhibit psychopathic tendencies?

[Holly Goodhead]

Yes, CC was calling the shots because had there been any attempt by Sheila to regain her status as the resident parent, he would have had more than enough evidence for a court to side with him and give him legal sole custody.

I suspect June and Nevill knew this and didn't rock the boat, again making the fostering conversation a questionable event. There is simply no reason to believe Jb that it happened.

Yes I suspect the Bamber's knew that if the matter went to court and it was a case of CC v SC in London CC would win. 
The Bambers may have wanted to preempt this by getting SC set up in Essex with a support system by way of themselves and local Foster carers. 

[APRIL]

“A psychopath will mirror your identity at the beginning, middle and end of a relationship, only in different ways at each stage. Initially, in order to win you over, he will pretend to be like you and to like everything about you. Robert Hare and Paul Babiak describe in Snakes in Suits how during the “assessment phase” of the relationship a psychopath will convey to his target four main messages: 1) I like you; 2) I share your interests; 3) I’m like you, and 4) I’m the perfect partner or soul mate for you.
This process constitutes the mirroring phase of the psychopathic bond. Granted, most romantic relationships entail some aspects of mirroring. After all, that’s how couples discover their points in common. But with a psychopath the reflection tends to be instant and total. It’s a simulated bonding that’s way too fast, too soon and too good to be true. This happens before any real emotional connection can take place. It occurs before the partners have gotten to know each other well, over time and in different circumstances. Instant bonding is usually a symptom of shallowness of emotions rather than of miraculous compatibility. It means that the psychopath will detach from you and latch on to another target as easily as he initially attached to you. Yet through their conversational glibness and innate charm, as well as through their extraordinary capacity to identify and reflect your deepest desires, psychopaths can initially make you feel like they’re your dream come true. They present themselves as the only partners who could possibly fulfill whatever’s been missing from your life.
During the course of the relationship, however, the psychopath reveals more and more his true colors. He becomes increasingly critical and controlling. What’s more, he also incites you to go along with his wrongdoings. That way you mirror his ugly personality and become his accomplice. His message switches from being “I’m just like you” (as moral, smart, kind, beautiful, ideal as you are) as it was during the luring phase to being “you’re just like me” (as deceitful, malicious, dishonest as you begin to see that he is). Keep in mind that, most likely, you’re not.  Even if you’ve engaged in some wrongdoings, unless you thrive on pathological lying, promiscuity as a means of domination of others, playing mind games, harming others and power games you’re not likely to be a psychopath, like him.
When you’ve finally had enough and leave the psychopath–or when he leaves you–he will see you as a devalued, distorted mirror image of himself and of your former, idealized, self as well. Every quality he initially saw in you–from beauty to brains–will be turned into its opposite. If he saw you as smart, you’re now stupid in his eyes. If he was attracted to your beauty, he now sees you as ugly. If he admired your hard work, he now views your efforts as a mindless submission to the system. As I’ve explained in the previous post about the process of idealize, devalue and discard, this negative mirroring at the end is a natural and inevitable unfolding of the psychopathic relationship.
Just as the idealized mirror image at the beginning of the psychopathic bond had little to do with your qualities–they were false compliments intended to lure you–so the de-idealized mirror image at the end has nothing to do with you either. These distorted mirroring effects have everything to do with the character deficiencies of the psychopath himself, who suffers from an incurable evil. Which, incidentally, is a good way to describe the middle mirroring phase as well: when he says you, or all human beings, are like him, remember that’s not true either.  A psychopath is different from–and far worse than–just about any human being you will ever know.
Claudia Moscovici, psychopathyawareness
https://psychopathyawareness.wordpress.com/2011/01/20/the-psychopaths-mirroring-effects/

Oh yes!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Holly Goodhead]

Not certain what you mean, here. Are you dismissing, out of hand, because it's not 'evidence', anything said by psychiatrists who dare to suggest that Jeremy is a psychopath? Surely not?

There's nothing to dismiss out of hand because there's simply no evidence JB was or is a psychopath.

[APRIL]

There's nothing to dismiss out of hand because there's simply no evidence JB was or is a psychopath.

That safety blanket again.

[Caroline]

There's nothing to dismiss out of hand because there's simply no evidence JB was or is a psychopath.

There is, you just ignore and deny it. It's not going away though.

[Holly Goodhead]

There is, you just ignore and deny it. It's not going away though.

Please post up all these reports you believe exist. 

If you had any evidence you would post it up but you don't just a claim made by a book author as posted by G-Unit

The mention of a defence psychiatrist by CAL was taken fron Blood Relations by Roger Wilkes. Perhaps this man's name is in that book? I don't have it. Rather scarily, he is reported to have seen Jeremy's 'very real belief that he didn't commit the crimes' as the main sign of his psychopathy.

https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11438.msg586851#msg586851

[Nicholas]

I haven’t got CAL’s book to hand, but three men who lived at WHF in the 1800s and early 1900s all killed themselves.

One took arsenic, I believe

One drowned himself in a big water butt

And one shot himself dead by tying string to his toe and the trigger of a rifle, then clenching his foot to fire it. That one lived on the farm but not in the house. The other two lived in the house.

I’m not sure, but I think they were related to June in some way...it’s at the very beginning of the book

If Bamber was told of these stories could he have been fixated with them?

[Nicholas]

Please post up all these reports you believe exist. 

If you had any evidence you would post it up but you don't just a claim made by a book author as posted by G-Unit

The mention of a defence psychiatrist by CAL was taken fron Blood Relations by Roger Wilkes. Perhaps this man's name is in that book? I don't have it. Rather scarily, he is reported to have seen Jeremy's 'very real belief that he didn't commit the crimes' as the main sign of his psychopathy.

https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11438.msg586851#msg586851

And you appear to be doing the same as Bamber

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9346.0

[APRIL]

Please post up all these reports you believe exist. 

If you had any evidence you would post it up but you don't just a claim made by a book author as posted by G-Unit

The mention of a defence psychiatrist by CAL was taken fron Blood Relations by Roger Wilkes. Perhaps this man's name is in that book? I don't have it. Rather scarily, he is reported to have seen Jeremy's 'very real belief that he didn't commit the crimes' as the main sign of his psychopathy.

https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11438.msg586851#msg586851

Can you just clarify what you're saying, please. It sounds remarkably like it wouldn't matter to you HOW many professionals claimed that JB was a psychopath, and that unless it's written evidence, it's as good as not being said? Sounds a little blinkered.

[Nicholas]

Please post up all these reports you believe exist. 

Bamber has kept his pre trial assessment reports from his supporters Holly

[Nicholas]

It was Judge Ann Power Forde who referred to ‘Hope’ re Bamber’s full life tariff

Judge Power Forde
“Those who commit the most abhorrent and egregious of acts and who inflict untold suffering upon others, nevertheless retain their fundamental humanity and carry within themselves the capacity to change. Long and deserved though their prison sentences may be, they retain the right to hope that, someday, they may have atoned for the wrongs which they have committed. They ought not to be deprived entirely of such hope. To deny them the experience of hope would be to deny a fundamental aspect of their humanity and, to do that, would be degrading.
VINTER AND OTHERS v. THE UNITED KINGDOM (Applications nos. 66069/09, 130/10 and 3896/10)

[G-Unit]

I don't know why some people are so determined to insist that Jeremy Bamber is a psychopath. Even if they could offer evidence, which they haven't, it has no bearing on his guilt or innocence. More specifically it has nothing to do with 'the twin's future'.

[Nicholas]

In the letter he drafted to NB where he was seeking his help to "try and convince SC" it would be best for her and the twins if they stayed with CC most of the time and SC could see them when she wished.

What was CC’s mood around the time he wrote this letter ?

It wasn’t sent was it?

[Nicholas]

In the letter he drafted to NB where he was seeking his help to "try and convince SC" it would be best for her and the twins if they stayed with CC most of the time and SC could see them when she wished.

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[Holly Goodhead]

What was CC’s mood around the time he wrote this letter ?

It wasn’t sent was it?

No iidea

And

No