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Offline Caroline

Re: Just Because...
« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2020, 07:27:05 PM »
How long did the landlords give him?

What items were burned and when?

There is no record of that that I know of

He burned all of their clothes, they were 'piled high' on the trailer. Have you voted yet? That's the purpose of the thread.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Just Because...
« Reply #31 on: May 24, 2020, 07:30:49 PM »
How long did the landlords give him?

What items were burned and when?
Why not ask AA to ask JB?  Or better still, ask him yourself as you have his contact details.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

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Re: Just Because...
« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2020, 07:35:01 PM »
Just because JB drove really slowly to the farmhouse that night despite his father’s alleged anguished and urgent phonecall, arriving after the police (who he called many minutes after the alleged phonecall from his father) doesn’t mean he’s a murderer.


But none of you believe there was a phone call, do you???

Offline APRIL

Re: Just Because...
« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2020, 07:38:13 PM »

But none of you believe there was a phone call, do you???



It's the "alleged" bit that sneaks in, which gives it away, I suspect, isn't it?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Just Because...
« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2020, 08:31:50 PM »

But none of you believe there was a phone call, do you???
That’s why I referred to it as “alleged”.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Just Because...
« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2020, 08:49:10 PM »
That’s why I referred to it as “alleged”.
Wasn't it proven by an expert witness that there was a call made from WHF to J. Bamber's cottage?  If Jeremy faked the call from WHF there still needed someone at the cottage to answer the call.

"27. At 3.35 a.m., Mr Bonnet arranged for a police car to go to White House Farm. A check
made by a British Telecom operator of the telephone line to the farm was made at 4.30 a.m.
The receiver was off the hook and all the operator could hear was the sound of a dog
barking. "

and
"68. There was no evidence of telephone billing information of the sort which would be available
these days. There was, however, expert evidence called as to the effect of a telephone call
having been made from White House Farm to Goldhanger which was then abandoned by the
caller with the receiver being left off the cradle, as claimed by the appellant. If such a
sequence had occurred, the telephone link would have remained open either until the
handset at White House Farm was replaced or until the handset at Goldhanger had been
replaced and left in position for a period which could vary from 1 to 2 minutes, when an
automatic interruption of the link would take place. Until one or other of these events, the
appellant would have been unable to make any call from the Goldhanger telephone. "

https://murderpedia.org/male.B/images/bamber_jeremy/20011745.pdf
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Offline Caroline

Re: Just Because...
« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2020, 09:02:50 PM »
Wasn't it proven by an expert witness that there was a call made from WHF to J. Bamber's cottage?  If Jeremy facked the call from WHF there still needed someone at the cottage to answer the call.

"27. At 3.35 a.m., Mr Bonnet arranged for a police car to go to White House Farm. A check
made by a British Telecom operator of the telephone line to the farm was made at 4.30 a.m.
The receiver was off the hook and all the operator could hear was the sound of a dog
barking. "

and
"68. There was no evidence of telephone billing information of the sort which would be available
these days. There was, however, expert evidence called as to the effect of a telephone call
having been made from White House Farm to Goldhanger which was then abandoned by the
caller with the receiver being left off the cradle, as claimed by the appellant. If such a
sequence had occurred, the telephone link would have remained open either until the
handset at White House Farm was replaced or until the handset at Goldhanger had been
replaced and left in position for a period which could vary from 1 to 2 minutes, when an
automatic interruption of the link would take place. Until one or other of these events, the
appellant would have been unable to make any call from the Goldhanger telephone. "

https://murderpedia.org/male.B/images/bamber_jeremy/20011745.pdf

No it wasn't proven that a call was made because if it was, Bamber would be free. Bamber left the phone off the hook after killing everyone.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Just Because...
« Reply #37 on: May 24, 2020, 09:33:19 PM »
No it wasn't proven that a call was made because if it was, Bamber would be free. Bamber left the phone off the hook after killing everyone.
Jeremy always reported that the phone line went dead as if it was cut.  He never said the handpiece was just left unhooked.
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Offline APRIL

Re: Just Because...
« Reply #38 on: May 24, 2020, 09:36:28 PM »
Jeremy always reported that the phone line went dead as if it was cut.  He never said the handpiece was just left unhooked.

As he's never confessed to the murders, he's hardly going to admit to how he left the scene, is he?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Just Because...
« Reply #39 on: May 24, 2020, 09:38:18 PM »
As he's never confessed to the murders, he's hardly going to admit to how he left the scene, is he?
He has described what the phone conversation was like.
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Offline Caroline

Re: Just Because...
« Reply #40 on: May 24, 2020, 09:42:00 PM »
Jeremy always reported that the phone line went dead as if it was cut.  He never said the handpiece was just left unhooked.

Maybe you should just think about what you have written for a while  8((()*/

Offline Caroline

Re: Just Because...
« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2020, 09:42:28 PM »
He has described what the phone conversation was like.

And that  8((()*/

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Just Because...
« Reply #42 on: May 24, 2020, 09:42:56 PM »
Maybe you should just think about what you have written for a while  8((()*/
Are you insulting my intelligence?
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Offline Caroline

Re: Just Because...
« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2020, 09:44:48 PM »
Are you insulting my intelligence?

Would I?  &%%6

Offline APRIL

Re: Just Because...
« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2020, 09:47:18 PM »
Are you insulting my intelligence?


I find some of your suggestions particularly unintelligent but I've put it down to your lack of familiarity with the case.