What Time Roughly Was The Bedroom Telephone Put In The Kitchen?

[G-Unit]

I imagine they had more than one double adapter. They had a phone upstairs ordinarily so would need it.

I looked at the bedroom photos. Neither of the bedside tables in the main bedroom had a gap where a phone could have been placed.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Oh dear. Pam doesn't use the words UP to bed, I'm afraid;

Where was Sheila’s bedroom?

Upstairs!

June said she’d gone to bed.

[The General]

I looked at the bedroom photos. Neither of the bedside tables in the main bedroom had a gap where a phone could have been placed.

How big a GAP do you need for a PHONE? We're not talking about Alexander Graham Bell's prototype occupied a ROOM, this is an 80's style normal phone type phone, FFS!!
IT IS A PHONE.
Are you and / or Holly SUGGESTING there was no phone? Do you know what a PhOnE even is? Can you comprehend phone? If a phone rings in an empty forest, does it make a sound? FFS!
THis is about the senseless slaying of an entire FAMILY by a psychopath. It's not about YOU!

[The General]

How big a GAP do you need for a PHONE? We're not talking about Alexander Graham Bell's prototype that occupied a ROOM, this is an 80's style normal phone type phone, FFS!!
IT IS A PHONE.
Are you and / or Holly SUGGESTING there was no phone? Do you know what a PhOnE even is? Can you comprehend phone? If a phone rings in an empty forest, does it make a sound? FFS!
THis is about the senseless slaying of an entire FAMILY by a psychopath. It's not about YOU!

[Myster]

I looked at the bedroom photos. Neither of the bedside tables in the main bedroom had a gap where a phone could have been placed.

Plenty of room for the ivory phone on Nevill's side - either on top of the digital clock radio or on the lower ledge in front...

[Myster]

How big a GAP do you need for a PHONE? We're not talking about Alexander Graham Bell's prototype occupied a ROOM, this is an 80's style normal phone type phone, FFS!!
IT IS A PHONE.
Are you and / or Holly SUGGESTING there was no phone? Do you know what a PhOnE even is? Can you comprehend phone? If a phone rings in an empty forest, does it make a sound? FFS!
THis is about the senseless slaying of an entire FAMILY by a psychopath. It's not about YOU!

I saw what you did there.

[Vertigo Swirl]

How big a GAP do you need for a PHONE? We're not talking about Alexander Graham Bell's prototype occupied a ROOM, this is an 80's style normal phone type phone, FFS!!
IT IS A PHONE.
Are you and / or Holly SUGGESTING there was no phone? Do you know what a PhOnE even is? Can you comprehend phone? If a phone rings in an empty forest, does it make a sound? FFS!
THis is about the senseless slaying of an entire FAMILY by a psychopath. It's not about YOU!

That’s more like it.

[puglove]

How big a GAP do you need for a PHONE? We're not talking about Alexander Graham Bell's prototype occupied a ROOM, this is an 80's style normal phone type phone, FFS!!
IT IS A PHONE.
Are you and / or Holly SUGGESTING there was no phone? Do you know what a PhOnE even is? Can you comprehend phone? If a phone rings in an empty forest, does it make a sound? FFS!
THis is about the senseless slaying of an entire FAMILY by a psychopath. It's not about YOU!

Oooh!! Sexy General!!

[ISpyWithMyEye]

We don't know if there was no one else in the house that night do we.

There wasn’t

Fact

[ISpyWithMyEye]

The kitchen phone may have developed a fault so they had to borrow the other from the bedroom.

It was working

They tested it

Move along...

[G-Unit]

Plenty of room for the ivory phone on Nevill's side - either on top of the digital clock radio or on the lower ledge in front...

It's opinion, obviously, but I wouldn't use the word 'plenty'. According to the cleaner the phone was on the left hand side of the bed, and the other bedside table was even more occupied.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Does. Which is what I said - did Bamber move it during the attack? But that doesn't jive with the pre-emptive element. Why didn't Bamber prepare the ground by simply unplugging the thing from the wall, or by fouling the connection? That way Nevill may have gone for the phone when if he heard him enter through the window (although more likely investigate actually), but wouldn't be able to use it.

I thought you were au fait with the case?

Look, Jeremy wouldn’t have touched the phone while he was busy shooting his parents dead!

Of course he planned it! He removed the kitchen telephone’s receiver disabling the whole phone line of the house. It’s hardly rocket science.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Perhaps he did unplug it from the wall and moved the phones after everyone was dead.

Exactly, Caroline

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I'm not challenging anyone. I'm trying to establish the phone movements. If I asked Holly she'd say 'what phone'?
This isn't a pissing contest, I'm trying to understand the mechanics of this most integral facet of the case - it doesn't cast aspersions on anything.
If the phone was moved by Bamber pre-killing spree, surely June or Nevill would have noticed it missing.
If it was faulty, or Bamber told them it was, then June wouldn't have been found supposedly trying to reach it, although I admit that it's a possibility on blind panic that she went for it out of pure muscle memory / terror.

Smart arsed enough?

Oh, I didn't answer the question; what would you like me to challenge someone about?
I'll say it again - there's no mystery here, just details that I'd like ironing out. If that occurred 8 years ago by some prophetic member on here, just link me up and I'll go back to the 8 piece jisaw I've been wrestling with since the lockdown started.

You don’t get it, do you?

I’ve already said I don’t believe Jeremy moved the bedroom telephone until after he’d killed them all. There was no point as he disabled the phone line by taking the kitchen phone’s receiver off the hook. We all know he sneaked in through the bathroom window — and crept into the kitchen and the cupboard where he’d put the gun back after secretly loading it for the killings

You’d think either June or Nevill would’ve noticed the bedroom phone missing, which is another reason Jeremy wouldn’t have moved it prior to leaving WHF earlier: there was a chance Nevill would have noticed it missing and gone and brought the kitchen phone up.

No-ne knows for sure if June tried to get to the bedroom phone; I somehow doubt it. Why stand still making a call when someone’s shooting at you? I suspect she was running for the door that led to the next room, then ran in the opposite direction when Jeremy beat her to it. The way June is laying by the door looks to me like she was shot by Jeremy as he stood inside the bedroom.

He was panicking too as he had only injured Nevill, who was trying to make it downstairs and he couldn’t let him near the phone.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I looked at the bedroom photos. Neither of the bedside tables in the main bedroom had a gap where a phone could have been placed.

Rubbish.