Why was the window open ?

[icabodcrane]

"Isn't that strange"

there was no question mark behind that so I will take it as a statement of you opinion.

I can't answer your other questions.

Thankyou for calling the helpline you calls are appreciated.

Don't you find it strange that Gerry wasn't troubled about the open door anymore,  once he found all three children well and accounted for  ? 

I mean,  you'd think, wouldn't you,  that once he knew the door wasn't open because Madeleine had left the room,  he'd be more  concerned   ...  there was no explanation for it now

But he just went back to the restaurant, thinking no more about it

I think that's strange   

[amaraltheofficeboy]

anyone can have strange thoughts.

[Heriberto Janosch]

"Why was the window open ?"

Why was the door a jar?

Glad you brought up the door that Gerry thought was open much wider than they  had left it, because something has been bothering me about that

Gerry went to check on his children at 9.05pm ... correct ?

As far as he was aware  no-one had been to the apartment since he and Kate had left at 8.30pm ...  correct ? 

So the first thing he notices when he goes into the apartment is the fact that the door to the children's bedroom is open much wider than he and Kate had left it half an hour before

He thinks maybe Madeleine had woken and gone into their room

He  establishes that she hadn't,  and that all three children are asleep in their room

...  and then what  ? 

He now knows that Madeleine hadn't left the room,  and that there is no explanation for the open door

Is he worried ?  ...  does he think that maybe someone had been in the apartment  ?  ...  a burglar perhaps ?  ...  does he search the apartment and look for any missing items ?

Nope,  he just looks down at his sleeping daughter, thinking how beautiful she is,  and then goes to the loo before setting back off to the restaurant  ...  the unexplained wide open door  not concerning him in the least 

Isn't that strange

Did you find in some occasion a door almost open/close which you believe was almost close/open;  a book in another table/shelf that you believed it was; your T-shirt in another drawer or in a chair? What did you do? You probably said:"Oh, I believe it was ...". You did not search all the house for a burglar who could do this!

But if a time later you discovered some money you had in a desk had disappeared, and you were unable to find it in all your house, you began to think about the door, the T-shirt and the book ... even if they were not touched by the burglar!

   

     

[Redblossom]

"Isn't that strange"

there was no question mark behind that so I will take it as a statement of you opinion.

I can't answer your other questions.

Thankyou for calling the helpline you calls are appreciated.

Don't you find it strange that Gerry wasn't troubled about the open door anymore,  once he found all three children well and accounted for  ? 

I mean,  you'd think, wouldn't you,  that once he knew the door wasn't open because Madeleine had left the room,  he'd be more  concerned   ...  there was no explanation for it now

But he just went back to the restaurant, thinking no more about it

I think that's strange

Bit like kate mccann finding the door more open and that was the only reason she stayed in the flat and not going back   Out again, but seeing the door more open, what did she do? Not go in and check but go to close it back to where it should be, then it  slammed, and even THEN she didnt wonder why it slammed, ahe says she opened the door again and looked dor Madeleine...wierd tale



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhACS6ck-Dw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[icabodcrane]

"Why was the window open ?"

Why was the door a jar?

Glad you brought up the door that Gerry thought was open much wider than they  had left it, because something has been bothering me about that

Gerry went to check on his children at 9.05pm ... correct ?

As far as he was aware  no-one had been to the apartment since he and Kate had left at 8.30pm ...  correct ? 

So the first thing he notices when he goes into the apartment is the fact that the door to the children's bedroom is open much wider than he and Kate had left it half an hour before

He thinks maybe Madeleine had woken and gone into their room

He  establishes that she hadn't,  and that all three children are asleep in their room

...  and then what  ? 

He now knows that Madeleine hadn't left the room,  and that there is no explanation for the open door

Is he worried ?  ...  does he think that maybe someone had been in the apartment  ?  ...  a burglar perhaps ?  ...  does he search the apartment and look for any missing items ?

Nope,  he just looks down at his sleeping daughter, thinking how beautiful she is,  and then goes to the loo before setting back off to the restaurant  ...  the unexplained wide open door  not concerning him in the least 

Isn't that strange

Did you find in some occasion a door almost open/close which you believe was almost close/open;  a book in another table/shelf that you believed it was; your T-shirt in another drawer or in a chair? What did you do? You probably said:"Oh, I believe it was ...". You did not search all the house for a burglar who could do this!

But if a time later you discovered some money you had in a desk had disappeared, and you were unable to find it in all your house, you began to think about the door, the T-shirt and the book ... even if they were not touched by the burglar!

   

     

We are talking about the open door of the McCann children's bedroom which Gerry McCann is certain  he had left only slightly ajar half an hour before

It was not something that appeared insignificant to him at the time ... it was   the first thing he noticed when he walked into the apartment ,  yet he sought no explanation for it

Let's remember,  the apartment had been left with unlocked patio doors,  yet it never occured to Gerry that someone may have been in there  ...  and that might be the reason for the open door

[Heriberto Janosch]

"Why was the window open ?"

Why was the door a jar?

Glad you brought up the door that Gerry thought was open much wider than they  had left it, because something has been bothering me about that

Gerry went to check on his children at 9.05pm ... correct ?

As far as he was aware  no-one had been to the apartment since he and Kate had left at 8.30pm ...  correct ? 

So the first thing he notices when he goes into the apartment is the fact that the door to the children's bedroom is open much wider than he and Kate had left it half an hour before

He thinks maybe Madeleine had woken and gone into their room

He  establishes that she hadn't,  and that all three children are asleep in their room

...  and then what  ? 

He now knows that Madeleine hadn't left the room,  and that there is no explanation for the open door

Is he worried ?  ...  does he think that maybe someone had been in the apartment  ?  ...  a burglar perhaps ?  ...  does he search the apartment and look for any missing items ?

Nope,  he just looks down at his sleeping daughter, thinking how beautiful she is,  and then goes to the loo before setting back off to the restaurant  ...  the unexplained wide open door  not concerning him in the least 

Isn't that strange

Did you find in some occasion a door almost open/close which you believe was almost close/open;  a book in another table/shelf that you believed it was; your T-shirt in another drawer or in a chair? What did you do? You probably said:"Oh, I believe it was ...". You did not search all the house for a burglar who could do this!

But if a time later you discovered some money you had in a desk had disappeared, and you were unable to find it in all your house, you began to think about the door, the T-shirt and the book ... even if they were not touched by the burglar!

   

     

We are talking about the open door of the McCann children's bedroom which Gerry McCann is certain  he had left only slightly ajar half an hour before

It was not something that appeared insignificant to him at the time ... it was   the first thing he noticed when he walked into the apartment ,  yet he sought no explanation for it

Let's remember,  the apartment had been left with unlocked patio doors,  yet it never occured to Gerry that someone may have been in there  ...  and that might be the reason for the open door

Gerry thought of the door AFTER Madeleine abduction, not before, so ...

[icabodcrane]

"Why was the window open ?"

Why was the door a jar?

Glad you brought up the door that Gerry thought was open much wider than they  had left it, because something has been bothering me about that

Gerry went to check on his children at 9.05pm ... correct ?

As far as he was aware  no-one had been to the apartment since he and Kate had left at 8.30pm ...  correct ? 

So the first thing he notices when he goes into the apartment is the fact that the door to the children's bedroom is open much wider than he and Kate had left it half an hour before

He thinks maybe Madeleine had woken and gone into their room

He  establishes that she hadn't,  and that all three children are asleep in their room

...  and then what  ? 

He now knows that Madeleine hadn't left the room,  and that there is no explanation for the open door

Is he worried ?  ...  does he think that maybe someone had been in the apartment  ?  ...  a burglar perhaps ?  ...  does he search the apartment and look for any missing items ?

Nope,  he just looks down at his sleeping daughter, thinking how beautiful she is,  and then goes to the loo before setting back off to the restaurant  ...  the unexplained wide open door  not concerning him in the least 

Isn't that strange

Did you find in some occasion a door almost open/close which you believe was almost close/open;  a book in another table/shelf that you believed it was; your T-shirt in another drawer or in a chair? What did you do? You probably said:"Oh, I believe it was ...". You did not search all the house for a burglar who could do this!

But if a time later you discovered some money you had in a desk had disappeared, and you were unable to find it in all your house, you began to think about the door, the T-shirt and the book ... even if they were not touched by the burglar!

   

     

We are talking about the open door of the McCann children's bedroom which Gerry McCann is certain  he had left only slightly ajar half an hour before

It was not something that appeared insignificant to him at the time ... it was   the first thing he noticed when he walked into the apartment ,  yet he sought no explanation for it

Let's remember,  the apartment had been left with unlocked patio doors,  yet it never occured to Gerry that someone may have been in there  ...  and that might be the reason for the open door

Gerry thought of the door AFTER Madeleine abduction, not before, so ...

No he didn't

He was aware of it straight away,  but  left the apartment to go back to the restaurant regardless

[Heriberto Janosch]

No he didn't

He was aware of it straight away,  but  left the apartment to go back to the restaurant regardless

He saw the door in a position he believed it was not. He did not give importance to this at the moment. It was  after Madeleine abduction he began to think in this detail, which could or not be important.

[Redblossom]

You are wrong heriberto, the fact is that Gerry Mccann said because he saw the door more open that is the only reason he looked inside the childrens bedroom, when he never did before ever

Proof here from 5 mins


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4aBr5PTYY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Heriberto Janosch]

You are wrong heriberto, the fact is that Gerry Mccann said because he saw the door more open that is the only reason he looked inside the childrens bedroom, when he never did before ever

Searching for a burglar? No. Seeing if Madeleine wake up and moved the door? ... Oh, Madeleine could wake up and walk by the room ... Maybe she could go to the window if somebody open it from the outside ...

Good night.

[icabodcrane]

You are wrong heriberto, the fact is that Gerry Mccann said because he saw the door more open that is the only reason he looked inside the childrens bedroom, when he never did before ever

Prood here from 5 mins


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4aBr5PTYY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

And Kate says in her book that Gerry immediately saw the door was open too wide,  and,  assuming Madeleine must have got up and gone to their room, he went there to check  before going  into the children's room

You'd think he would do it the other way round, wouldn't you ?

The childrens bedroom was straight in front of him,  with the door open,  yet istead of looking in to see if Madeleine  had  got out of bed, he went directly to his and Kate's room to look for her

The first place he looked for Madeleine was not in her own bed

[Rachel Granada]

Window arguments could go on  ad infinitum.  The plain truth is that Kate and Gerry McCann were not even formally arrested, never mind charged or convicted.

[John]

The "rubbish" videos are neither inaccurate nor misleading if you read properly in what context they were made.

Nobody knows if the glass panes were locked or not. If they were not locked, this is my hypothesis:

May 3rd. 2007: between 21:40 and 21:49 approximately (or maybe between 21:15 and 21:19 approximately) the abductor took Madeleine without entering the apartment 5A, opening the window from the outside. Awakened by the noise and/or light from the opening, believing was one of her parents, Madeleine went to the window (in the floor, not in the bed aside the window), somewhat somnolent and very tired, and was taken.

I am sure taking a 4 years old somnolent toddler is as easy as taking this sack. I had no a better dummy, but it can be repeated even with a toddler.

http://espacioexterior.blogspot.com

Also, this demonstrates that if the glass panes were not locked (and nobody knows) the "break-in" is possible leaving the window as Kate found it, and without damaged.

Sorry Heriberto on two counts. 

Firstly I didn't see your response so thank you for pointing it out to me in your pm.

Secondly, my rubbish comment was probably a bit strong so I apologise.  You and your friend went to a lot of trouble to film the videos and you are to be congratulated for your work.

However, and this is where I don't agree with your theory.  It is very unlikely that the McCanns left the window open and it is very unlikely that anyone was able to open it from the outside.  I believe this was attempted by the police but they were unable to do it.  The window was not forced.  In addition, what you are suggesting is that the abductor was an opportunist and took advantage of a situation.  I don't believe that for a minute.

The operation to snatch Madeleine was meticulously planned from beginning to end.  The suspicious characters seen lurking around on the street outside evidences the fact that the apartment was probably being watched for some time.  Whoever was involved wanted to establish what the pattern was with the parents when a suitable victim was identified.  They wanted to ensure that they were not disturbed when they went to abduct Maddie.  What they didn't bargain on was Jane Tanner doing an unscheduled check and nearly catching them at it.

I believe the open window theory and Madeleine walking over to it and being lifted out is a theory too far.  In addition, getting out of that window with a child was not easily done and would have probably taken two adults to accomplish.

The most likely scenario is that the abductors simply let himself in to the apartment and left by the same manner.  The open window and shutter was probably a cover to hide the fact that they had a key to the apartment.

[amaraltheofficeboy]

Anyone can make the "facts" or even fake "facts" support any theory they want.

[Redblossom]

You are wrong heriberto, the fact is that Gerry Mccann said because he saw the door more open that is the only reason he looked inside the childrens bedroom, when he never did before ever

Searching for a burglar? No. Seeing if Madeleine wake up and moved the door? ... Oh, Madeleine could wake up and walk by the room ... Maybe she could go to the window if somebody open it from the outside ...

Good night.

Didnt understand a word of that but goodnight