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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #735 on: June 06, 2020, 06:00:51 PM »
"Prosecutors in Germany are investigating Christian B "on suspicion of murder" and believe Madeleine is dead and know how she was killed - despite no body being found."


Let me get this straight.

They know how she was killed, but they're not certain she is dead.

Remarkable!
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Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #736 on: June 06, 2020, 06:04:04 PM »
"Prosecutors in Germany are investigating Christian B "on suspicion of murder" and believe Madeleine is dead and know how she was killed - despite no body being found."


Let me get this straight.

They know how she was killed, but they're not certain she is dead.

Remarkable!

The way I read that is that Germans are absolutely positive she is dead,and suspect someone killed her


Meanwhile Grange refuse to accept she is dead because that wasn't in their remit and might upset the McCanns
« Last Edit: June 06, 2020, 06:09:35 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #737 on: June 06, 2020, 06:08:39 PM »
"Prosecutors in Germany are investigating Christian B "on suspicion of murder" and believe Madeleine is dead and know how she was killed - despite no body being found."


Let me get this straight.

They know how she was killed, but they're not certain she is dead.

Remarkable!
You haven’t got it straight. Try re-reading it with your brain in gear this time.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #738 on: June 06, 2020, 06:12:05 PM »
You haven’t got it straight. Try re-reading it with your brain in gear this time.

Thanks, I just re-read it & It say's exactly the same thing as when I read it the first time.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #739 on: June 06, 2020, 06:12:49 PM »
Thanks, I just re-read it & It say's exactly the same thing as when I read it the first time.
Then you failed to engage your brain.  Never mind.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #740 on: June 06, 2020, 06:14:12 PM »
The way I read that is that Germans are absolutely positive she is dead,and suspect someone killed her


Meanwhile Grange refuse to accept she is dead because that wasn't in their remit and might upset the McCanns

Scotland Yard are following the evidence.

What evidence do you think there is that Madeleine is dead?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #741 on: June 06, 2020, 06:15:27 PM »
Scotland Yard are following the evidence.

What evidence do you think there is that Madeleine is dead?

No idea but the Germans seem pretty clear about it.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #742 on: June 06, 2020, 06:21:15 PM »
Scotland Yard are following the evidence.

What evidence do you think there is that Madeleine is dead?

What evidence do you think there is that Madeleine is dead?

Well if like you think CB is involved - Do you think maybe Maddie living a life of luxury.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #743 on: June 06, 2020, 06:23:20 PM »
Scotland Yard are following the evidence.

What evidence do you think there is that Madeleine is dead?

We've been through this before, there is plenty of evidence that Maddie is dead.
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Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #744 on: June 06, 2020, 06:23:41 PM »
Madeleine McCann suspect linked to murder of girl, 16, whose body was found chopped up on beach
Brittany Vonow6 Jun 2020,
THE prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann could be linked to the murder of a 16-year-old German girl whose body was found chopped up on a Belgian beach.

Carola Titze had reportedly been in contact with a German man days before she disappeared while on holiday in De Haan in 1996.

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 Carola Titze was just 16-years-old when her mutilated body was found on the beach in 1996
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Carola Titze was just 16-years-old when her mutilated body was found on the beach in 1996Credit: nordphoto
 Christian B has been named as a prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann
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Christian B has been named as a prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCannCredit: Bild
Tragically, her body was found badly mutilated in sand dunes just days later.

And local Belgian media VTM News today reported that prosecutors are now examining whether Christian B can be considered a suspect in the case.

Christian, who is now 43, would have been about 19 at the time of Carola's disappearance.

The young woman had reportedly been seen at a local disco with a German man before her death.

And despite police constructing a potential image of the suspect, no one was ever arrested.

Christian has this week been named as a suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

And Christian, who is currently in jail for the rape of an American tourist, has now been linked to two other disappearances of children.

German detectives investigating Christian B have contacted the family of Rene Hasee to say they were looking into his 1996 abduction again.

Youngster Rene, from Elsdorf, Germany, vanished on June 21, 1996 while on holiday with his family in Aljezur - just 25 miles from Praia da Luz, in the Algarve.

He ran ahead during a family walk on the beach to go in the sea. After losing sight of him they never saw him again and were left with just his clothes lying on the beach.

 Belgium police had previously released a drawing of a possible suspect in Carola's murder
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Belgium police had previously released a drawing of a possible suspect in Carola's murderCredit: nordphoto
 Rene Hasee vanished on June 21, 1996 while on holiday with his family in Aljezur
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Rene Hasee vanished on June 21, 1996 while on holiday with his family in Aljezur
 Police are also probing the disappearance of Inga Gehricke, who vanished in 2015
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Police are also probing the disappearance of Inga Gehricke, who vanished in 2015Credit: PA:Press Association
Detectives believe the suspect was regularly living in the Algarve from 1995. He was already convicted of sex offences against children and would have been 19 at the time Rene disappeared.

Christian B is also being re-investigated over the disappearance of a girl dubbed the 'German Maddie'.

Christian B was reported to be in the same area as five-year-old German girl Inga Gehricke when she vanished in May 2015.

The little girl had been enjoying a family BBQ in woodland in the state of Saxony-Anhalt, around 50 miles from Berlin, when she vanished without a trace in chilling echoes of Madeleine's disappearance.

Portuguese police have since insisted they didn't discount Christian as a suspect in the case of missing Madeleine.

The British toddler was just three-years-old when she vanished in Portugal while on holidays with her family in 2007.

Christian B is currently serving a seven-year prison sentence for raping an American woman, 72, in Portugal.

We are now able to show his picture in full in the UK after it was published in a major German newspaper - as cops in both countries appeal for anyone who knows him to come forward.

The suspect, who we cannot legally name in full, was first thrust into the frame in 2017 after allegedly confessing to abducting Madeleine in a bar.

He was reportedly chatting to the friend in Germany when a TV report came on about the tenth anniversary of the girl's disappearance and he suggested he knew what had happened to her.



German sources claim he boasted he had "snatched her" but didn’t say he had killed her.

Christian B was first thrust into the frame in connection with Madeleine's disappearance in 2017 after allegedly confessing to abducting the girl while in a bar with a pal in Germany.

He was reportedly chatting to the friend when a TV report came on about the tenth anniversary of the girl's disappearance and he suggested he knew what had happened to her.

German sources claim he boasted he had "snatched her" but didn’t say he had killed her.

Prosecutors in Germany are investigating Christian B "on suspicion of murder" and believe Madeleine is dead and know how she was killed - despite no body being found.

Well if that the case to me they seem to be clearing the book - like TIC

Offline Anthro

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #745 on: June 06, 2020, 06:24:05 PM »
I realise that; but there was a crime scene in Luz 2005 which yielded some unidentified hairs, subsequently used to convict CB in Germany. Did Germany not have his DNA on their database in 2005, 2007, 2010, 2013 or 2015 based on his conviction history?
The American victim survived & presumably was able to provide the police with certain eye-witness evidence...and her home was less than 10 mins walk from the scene of another potentially serious crime 2 years later. I can't help wondering why, if Luz was such a safe place, PJ weren't chomping at the bit to acquire DNA of local foreign sex offenders, especially one reportedly seen near 5A by 2 separate witnesses.
Germany. Germany set up its DNA database for the German Federal Police (BKA) in 1998.

DNA database - Wikipedia

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #746 on: June 06, 2020, 06:47:56 PM »
I realise that; but there was a crime scene in Luz 2005 which yielded some unidentified hairs, subsequently used to convict CB in Germany. Did Germany not have his DNA on their database in 2005, 2007, 2010, 2013 or 2015 based on his conviction history?
The American victim survived & presumably was able to provide the police with certain eye-witness evidence...and her home was less than 10 mins walk from the scene of another potentially serious crime 2 years later. I can't help wondering why, if Luz was such a safe place, PJ weren't chomping at the bit to acquire DNA of local foreign sex offenders, especially one reportedly seen near 5A by 2 separate witnesses.

  Could they request DNA from other countries just because someone had a criminal record?  Is being in the area enough justification to get it?
We have no idea why PJ dismissed Bruckner as a suspect in 2007. For all we know he could have had an alibi that put him somewhere else. We can't judge the PJ as incompetent in the matter unless we know why they let him go as a suspect...even then he may turn out not to be responsible and the Germans may have to drop him too. The German police seem to be trying to pin down his movements by asking if people saw the van he was living in and they also ( after 3 years)  said they are 'open minded' about his involvement.

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #747 on: June 06, 2020, 06:49:17 PM »
What evidence do you think there is that Madeleine is dead?

Well if like you think CB is involved - Do you think maybe Maddie living a life of luxury.

I have seen a few reports that suggest Brueckner may have had a change of fortune in 2007 and in his conversation with his friend he never said he had Killed Madeleine ... only that he knew what had happened.

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'It was conspicuous that he had boasted about a sudden financial windfall after he returned from Portugal in 2007. Friends remember him telling them that he had found cash in a pile of clothes, large sums of money, after breaking into a home in the Algarve.

'In addition to a mobile home, he also used the money to buy a derelict factory property in the state of Saxony-Anhalt.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8394183/Christian-Brueckner-flagged-key-Madeleine-McCann-kidnap-murder-suspect-SEVEN-YEARS-ago.html
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #748 on: June 06, 2020, 06:55:29 PM »
  Could they request DNA from other countries just because someone had a criminal record?  Is being in the area enough justification to get it?
We have no idea why PJ dismissed Bruckner as a suspect in 2007. For all we know he could have had an alibi that put him somewhere else. We can't judge the PJ as incompetent in the matter unless we know why they let him go as a suspect...even then he may turn out not to be responsible and the Germans may have to drop him too. The German police seem to be trying to pin down his movements by asking if people saw the van he was living in and they also ( after 3 years)  said they are 'open minded' about his involvement.

With any luck the recent appeal may turn up exactly the information required to progress the inquiry.  We shall just have to be patient and content ourselves until the police have analysed everything they've got.
Whether or or not they share it with us is entirely up to them, but I rather doubt it.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #749 on: June 06, 2020, 07:04:29 PM »
Scotland Yard are following the evidence.

What evidence do you think there is that Madeleine is dead?

Just yesterday you posted that the Germans had their finger on the pulse....and they think she’s dead.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?