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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #990 on: June 08, 2020, 12:20:42 PM »
"Nobody can predict that a theft will end in kidnapping. And that is why it is not punishable", he concluded.''

I can see parallels there with the McCanns thinking no one could foresee leaving young children alone with the doors unlocked would lead to kidnap or harm.

Isn't burglary a crime in itself in Portugal ??

Exactly how many Ocean Club employees were involved in this lucrative little sideline ??  We know of a few and I think the law of averages dictates there must have been more.

Why would any parent visiting a resort sold to tourists as the perfect family holiday venue have any qualms about the safety of their children?  Ignorance is bliss but I don't think anyone will be making that mistake in the future.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #991 on: June 08, 2020, 12:22:57 PM »
Isn't burglary a crime in itself in Portugal ??

Exactly how many Ocean Club employees were involved in this lucrative little sideline ??  We know of a few and I think the law of averages dictates there must have been more.

Why would any parent visiting a resort sold to tourists as the perfect family holiday venue have any qualms about the safety of their children?  Ignorance is bliss but I don't think anyone will be making that mistake in the future.

Most parents would have qualms about leaving three under fives alone in an unlocked apartment no matter how safe the environment.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #992 on: June 08, 2020, 12:23:51 PM »
What is the origin of this OC accomplice ? Is it police  statement or a media construct?

That would be a question better directed to 'the highly respected' Correio da Manhã.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #993 on: June 08, 2020, 12:26:49 PM »
That would be a question better directed to 'the highly respected' Correio da Manhã.

It possibly would, but I don't speak Portuguese.

I did think that someone among the knowledgeable people on here might have the answer at their fingertips.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #994 on: June 08, 2020, 12:34:47 PM »
Latest from the Daily Mail - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8397265/German-prime-suspect-Maddie-McCann-case-Christian-Brueckner-INNOCENT-says-Portuguese-police.html

This individual was already investigated around four years ago.'

Insisting the aim of German police revelations about the man, now identified as the prime Madeleine McCann suspect, was simply to put the case back into the public eye, ABC quoted the veteran PJ boss as saying: 'At this stage of the investigation, I think they've done it because they think it's needed to shake up the case and attract new witnesses.

'They work very closely with Portugal and now they've wanted to turn this case around.

'They're not looking to solve it now, because that's very difficult. What they're looking to do is agitate the waters.'


This is hardly the right way to conduct an international police investigation.
Just what is going on ?
« Last Edit: June 08, 2020, 12:52:24 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #995 on: June 08, 2020, 12:35:19 PM »
It possibly would, but I don't speak Portuguese.

I did think that someone among the knowledgeable people on here might have the answer at their fingertips.

But aren't you a subscriber to the notion that everyone in Portugal speaks perfect English ... or is that only in relation to opportunities to criticise the McCanns and their friends ?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #996 on: June 08, 2020, 12:37:44 PM »
But aren't you a subscriber to the notion that everyone in Portugal speaks perfect English ... or is that only in relation to opportunities to criticise the McCanns and their friends ?

No, I think you're confusing me with someone else - unless you can document that
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #997 on: June 08, 2020, 12:44:19 PM »
Isn't burglary a crime in itself in Portugal ??

Exactly how many Ocean Club employees were involved in this lucrative little sideline ??  We know of a few and I think the law of averages dictates there must have been more.

Why would any parent visiting a resort sold to tourists as the perfect family holiday venue have any qualms about the safety of their children?  Ignorance is bliss but I don't think anyone will be making that mistake in the future.

because they're adults with medical degrees who should be adept at questioning things that are presented at fact by people who are selling them something....and also weighing up risk and possibilities in child care.

   Again, what solid evidence do we have the Ocean Club was targeted by petty thief Bruckner? It's not enough just to say he could have done.

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #998 on: June 08, 2020, 01:01:36 PM »
because they're adults with medical degrees who should be adept at questioning things that are presented at fact by people who are selling them something....and also weighing up risk and possibilities in child care.

   Again, what solid evidence do we have the Ocean Club was targeted by petty thief Bruckner? It's not enough just to say he could have done.

WOW! WOW! WOW!   "petty thief Bruckner" ???
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #999 on: June 08, 2020, 01:14:06 PM »
WOW! WOW! WOW!   "petty thief Bruckner" ???

he was petty in his thieving was he not?   I was talking about his thieving specifically not his other crimes that he hadn't committed when he would have supposedly been casing 5a, which is what I have been asking for evidence of.

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1000 on: June 08, 2020, 01:35:42 PM »
Most parents would have qualms about leaving three under fives alone in an unlocked apartment no matter how safe the environment.

I no longer know what I would have done, having left my children alone on other occasions.  But then I never went on foreign holidays.

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1001 on: June 08, 2020, 01:39:24 PM »
he was petty in his thieving was he not?   I was talking about his thieving specifically not his other crimes that he hadn't committed when he would have supposedly been casing 5a, which is what I have been asking for evidence of.

He had already been convicted of Paedophilia.

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1002 on: June 08, 2020, 01:51:03 PM »
He had already been convicted of Paedophilia.

  A friend was quoted as saying he stole 'tourist sh*t'. Which is why I said he was a 'petty' thief.

 At the stage he was supposedly casing apartment 5a, he was a petty thief who's child abuse convictions did not seem to be linked to thieving or entering property. I think that's an accurate assessment but some people seem to think I am trying to dismiss his other crimes.
 Maybe that's come from an expectation of thinking people who do not believe the McCann's version of events are desperate to minimise the sadistic profile of Bruckner, I'm not one of them. I can see he's a very dangerous individual ....that is still not proof he was in 5a that night.

Offline Lace

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1003 on: June 08, 2020, 01:55:41 PM »
  A friend was quoted as saying he stole 'tourist sh*t'. Which is why I said he was a 'petty' thief.

 At the stage he was supposedly casing apartment 5a, he was a petty thief who's child abuse convictions did not seem to be linked to thieving or entering property. I think that's an accurate assessment but some people seem to think I am trying to dismiss his other crimes.
 Maybe that's come from an expectation of thinking people who do not believe the McCann's version of events are desperate to minimise the sadistic profile of Bruckner, I'm not one of them. I can see he's a very dangerous individual ....that is still not proof he was in 5a that night.

Why did he confess to abducting Madeleine?

Offline Lace

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1004 on: June 08, 2020, 01:57:34 PM »
because they're adults with medical degrees who should be adept at questioning things that are presented at fact by people who are selling them something....and also weighing up risk and possibilities in child care.

   Again, what solid evidence do we have the Ocean Club was targeted by petty thief Bruckner? It's not enough just to say he could have done.

His phone put him in the area of 5a.  He confessed to a friend that he abducted Madeleine.  His phone number was listed in a phone owned by an ex Tapas Restaurant worker.