New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Eleanor]

That's incorrect. He had a conviction for ' sexual activity in front of a child' in 1994, No rape conviction until 2018.

Do you know, you are right, but he had already committed The Rape by then, for which he has since been convicted.

Watching the likes of you trying to make even passing excuses for this man would be hilarious.  If only it were funny.

PS.  I have never even intimated that I believe him to be involved in the Abduction of Madeleine McCann.

[Eleanor]

It's a big leap in anyone's book to go from a sex pest or even rapist burglar to a child abductor and murderer. As far as I am aware, this suspect has never even been arrested on suspicion of murder let alone been convicted of it?

Absolutely correct, John.

[Gertrude]

It's a big leap in anyone's book to go from a sex pest or even rapist burglar to a child abductor and murderer. As far as I am aware, this suspect has never even been arrested on suspicion of murder let alone been convicted of it?

It would be but that's what people were saying about the case of Libby Squire recently in the UK. The suspect was a thief who was a fetish burglar and he also was a voyeur. The stealing is just a way of the person justifying their breaking and entering to themselves until they encounter an occupant and assault them. It can escalate in those cases.  I do think Bruckner could fit that profile. Still I don't see any evidence placing Bruckner at 5a yet or the police wouldn't be appealing.

[Wonderfulspam]

His First Crime was Paedophillia at the age of 17 and already documented.  What is petty about that?

Depends how old his victim was really.

I mean, If the age of consent was 16, he was 17 & she was 15 & three quarters, hardly crime of the century.

[Gertrude]

Do you know, you are right, but he had already committed The Rape by then, for which he has since been convicted.

Watching the likes of you trying to make even passing excuses for this man would be hilarious.  If only it were funny.

PS.  I have never even intimated that I believe him to be involved in the Abduction of Madeleine McCann.

 Well that's quite an accusation! Can I have a cite for when I have been making excuses for a sadistic rapist? And then could I have an apology?

  I have never made any excuses I am being factual. He was not a convicted rapist at the time he would have been in 5a ( as you have kindly admitted). How you have decided I want to excuse his later crimes is beyond me and quite insulting.

 

[pathfinder73]

Was this German employed in May 2007?

[jassi]

Depends how old his victim was really.

I mean, If the age of consent was 16, he was 17 & she was 15 & three quarters, hardly crime of the century.

Having a w*nk in front of a minor is hardly the crime of the century anyway.
Distasteful certainly and he was duly punished for said act.

[Eleanor]

Well that's quite an accusation! Can I have a cite for when I have been making excuses for a sadistic rapist? And then could I have an apology?

  I have never made any excuses I am being factual. He was not a convicted rapist at the time he would have been in 5a ( as you have kindly admitted). How you have decided I want to excuse his later crimes is beyond me and quite insulting.

He Was A Rapist.  He just hadn't been convicted.  Or would you like to argue that point?

[Gertrude]

Depends how old his victim was really.

I mean, If the age of consent was 16, he was 17 & she was 15 & three quarters, hardly crime of the century.

Which is how police would see it. One conviction for sexual activity with a child as a teen and a burglary as a teen.
 The police deal with vast numbers of these low-level offenders and don't have the resources to watch them all intently in case they escalate. These are the facts.
  It would seem Scotland Yard didn't think his 2 teenage convictions were of much relevance either when they reviewed the files in 2012.

[Gertrude]

He Was A Rapist.  He just hadn't been convicted.  Or would you like to argue that point?

I would like an apology actually. You said I have tried to make excuses for a rapist. And how is it relevant? This all started because I said his THIEVING was petty. You started arguing his other sexual crime wasn't petty

No-one knew he was a rapist at the time, not even you!

[Eleanor]

I would like an apology actually. You said I have tried to make excuses for a rapist.

No-one knew he was a rapist at the time, not even you!

So that makes it alright, does it?

You have tried to make excuses by arguing that no one knew.  Well, they jolly well do now.  As do you.

[Holly Goodhead]

I would like to see some authentic info re his convictions.

Where are the tabloids getting the info from?  I haven't seen any of them produce a criminal records check or even make ref to such?

https://ecris.eu/

[Gertrude]

So that makes it alright, does it?

You have tried to make excuses by arguing that no one knew.  Well, they jolly well do now.  As do you.

Makes what alright?    Is it really that hard to understand that his THIEVING at that time was petty?
It was a fact that no-one knew about his rape at the time, so how is that me making excuses?!

You've basically called me rape apologist. As I can tell I'm not going to get an apology I would just like to appeal to you to
-  think a bit about what other people may have been through personally before throwing about such accusations.

[Holly Goodhead]

Makes what alright?    Is it really that hard to understand that his THIEVING at that time was petty?
It was a fact that no-one knew about his rape at the time, so how is that me making excuses?!

What evidence exists re the rape charge/conviction?

[jassi]

I would like to see some authentic info re his convictions.

Where are the tabloids getting the info from?  I haven't seen any of them produce a criminal records check or even make ref to such?

https://ecris.eu/

 There's so much unsubstantiated stuff being publish that it's becoming impossible to separate truth from falsehood.
The problem is that the likes of the Daily Mail are very good at inserting a line or two of fact among a mass of fiction and the poor old punter falls for it hook line and sinker.