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Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1036 on: June 08, 2020, 03:10:30 PM »
Makes what alright?    Is it really that hard to understand that his THIEVING at that time was petty?
It was a fact that no-one knew about his rape at the time, so how is that me making excuses?!

Been there.  Done all of this.

Now please go away.  I am a bit busy at the moment, watching Reruns of "London's Burning."

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1037 on: June 08, 2020, 03:12:28 PM »
What evidence exists re the rape charge/conviction?

You might be whistling into the wind here.  They don't want to talk about this.

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1038 on: June 08, 2020, 03:13:19 PM »
Been there.  Done all of this.

Now please go away.  I am a bit busy at the moment, watching Reruns of "London's Burning."

Nope. You've called me a rape apologist and quite frankly I'm shocked. That's how you want to leave it.


Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1039 on: June 08, 2020, 03:13:43 PM »
His phone put him in the area of 5a.  He confessed to a friend that he abducted Madeleine.  His phone number was listed in a phone owned by an ex Tapas Restaurant worker.


Don't you think this is as equally disturbing - not just one call either

These omissions make interpretation of the data difficult but what is available provides an interesting picture.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2020, 10:59:47 AM by John »

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1040 on: June 08, 2020, 03:14:38 PM »
You might be whistling into the wind here.  They don't want to talk about this.

I linked to the German court case. Hardly ignoring the facts is it?

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1041 on: June 08, 2020, 03:21:05 PM »

We all know that Bruckner is arguing Jurisdiction.

Isn't it time someone opened a Thread on A Miscarriage of Justice?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1042 on: June 08, 2020, 03:26:57 PM »
The German newspapers reporting on the court case.

https://www.braunschweiger-zeitung.de/mitreden/antworten/article229249704/Neuer-Verdacht-im-Fall-Maddie-kam-in-Prozess-in-Braunschweig-auf.html

The newspaper article is ambiguous about claims of a conviction for rape.  In any event it lacks detail: dates, court etc.  Why is Germany involved when the crime allegedly took place in Portugal?

Is the Maddie case now about to be clarified? Thirteen years after the child's disappearance, the investigation could take a spectacular and tragic turn. Because should the suspicion of murder of the investigating Braunschweig public prosecutor's office be confirmed, the hope is dashed that Maddie, who would be 17 today, could still be alive.

The new track leads to Braunschweig. A 43-year-old German is suspected who lived in Praia da Luz at the time of the crime and was registered with his last residence in Braunschweig.

There are many indications that the suspect is identical to the man who had to answer to the Braunschweig regional court in late 2019 for raping an American woman in Praia da Luz. The judgment against the 43-year-old, a seven-year prison sentence, is not yet final.

Trial in Braunschweig- Does a hair convict a rapist?
Rape trial - Court does not stay trial
Seven years in prison for brutal rape in Portugal

Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1043 on: June 08, 2020, 03:28:14 PM »
I linked to the German court case. Hardly ignoring the facts is it?

Can you link me to it  8((()*/
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1044 on: June 08, 2020, 03:33:52 PM »
Can you link me to it  8((()*/

It's that one you quoted above the full article is behind a paywall, The Guardian and Telegraph have listed specific details from the rape and quoted this source. So I suppose if you want to question whether they're being truthful about the conviction you could but it's not likely is it?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1045 on: June 08, 2020, 03:34:46 PM »
You might be whistling into the wind here.  They don't want to talk about this.

I think we're all whistling in the wind when the matter could be easily resolved by obtaining:

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11585.msg597759#msg597759

Shall we have a whip-round or maybe email the editors of Brit tabloids asking if they've obtained? 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1046 on: June 08, 2020, 03:40:23 PM »
It's that one you quoted above the full article is behind a paywall, The Guardian and Telegraph have listed specific details from the rape and quoted this source. So I suppose if you want to question whether they're being truthful about the conviction you could but it's not likely is it?

Hardly reliable is it?  I seem to recall McCanns et al and Murat received significant £'s for libel.  Editors tend to see it as an occupational hazard.

A decent press report will contain official court docs (public records) or criminal records check.

So far no one on here has even produced historic newspaper articles relating to the charges/convictions when they occurred?
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1047 on: June 08, 2020, 03:41:36 PM »
The Guardian say they have seen court documents. Are they likely to be lying. No.

I'm not sure what relevance seeing a record of his rape conviction has anyway?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1048 on: June 08, 2020, 03:44:10 PM »
The Guardian say they have seen court documents. Are they likely to be lying. No.

I'm not sure what relevance seeing a record of his rape conviction has anyway?

Can you link me to the Guardian article?   8((()*/
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1049 on: June 08, 2020, 03:47:05 PM »
The Guardian say they have seen court documents. Are they likely to be lying. No.

I'm not sure what relevance seeing a record of his rape conviction has anyway?

I haven't seen any evidence of a rape conviction.

The article you linked me to in a German paper is ambigious:

There are many indications that the suspect is identical to the man who had to answer to the Braunschweig regional court in late 2019 for raping an American woman in Praia da Luz. The judgment against the 43-year-old, a seven-year prison sentence, is not yet final.

Trial in Braunschweig- Does a hair convict a rapist?
Rape trial - Court does not stay trial
Seven years in prison for brutal rape in Portugal
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?