New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Gertrude]

Can you link me to the Guardian article?   

here you go.... ''According to court documents seen by the Guardian, Brückner was convicted in Germany last year of the rape of a 72-year-old American woman in Praia da Luz in 2005''

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/05/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-bruckner-being-investigated-over-second-missing-girl

[Holly Goodhead]

here you go.... ''According to court documents seen by the Guardian, Brückner was convicted in Germany last year of the rape of a 72-year-old American woman in Praia da Luz in 2005''

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/05/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-bruckner-being-investigated-over-second-missing-girl

Thanks.  I would still like to see the court docs and historic press articles re the rape charge/conviction.  Surely such a case would make the papers? 

[Gertrude]

I haven't seen any evidence of a rape conviction.

The article you linked me to in a German paper is ambigious:

There are many indications that the suspect is identical to the man who had to answer to the Braunschweig regional court in late 2019 for raping an American woman in Praia da Luz. The judgment against the 43-year-old, a seven-year prison sentence, is not yet final.

Trial in Braunschweig- Does a hair convict a rapist?
Rape trial - Court does not stay trial
Seven years in prison for brutal rape in Portugal

This is the headline ' The state attorney's office is investigating a Maddie case against a man, most recently resident in Braunschweig, recently convicted of rape.''

The other stories are all relating to the trial. They have certain legal restrictions in Germany I think that's why you're not going to be able to see actual court documents.

[misty]

I haven't seen any evidence of a rape conviction.

The article you linked me to in a German paper is ambigious:

There are many indications that the suspect is identical to the man who had to answer to the Braunschweig regional court in late 2019 for raping an American woman in Praia da Luz. The judgment against the 43-year-old, a seven-year prison sentence, is not yet final.

Trial in Braunschweig- Does a hair convict a rapist?
Rape trial - Court does not stay trial
Seven years in prison for brutal rape in Portugal

Link to start of rape trial 5/12/19
https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/braunschweig_harz_goettingen/Vergewaltigung-in-Portugal-Mann-vor-Gericht,aktuellbraunschweig3482.html


Link to German equivalent of Panorama, which hopefully answers your questions. Page can be translated by google.

https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Haengen-Faelle-Maddie-und-Inga-zusammen-article21826687.html

[Holly Goodhead]

This is the headline ' The state attorney's office is investigating a Maddie case against a man, most recently resident in Braunschweig, recently convicted of rape.''

The other stories are all relating to the trial. They have certain legal restrictions in Germany I think that's why you're not going to be able to see actual court documents.

But Germany is signed up to https://ecris.eu/

[Holly Goodhead]

Link to start of rape trial 5/12/19
https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/braunschweig_harz_goettingen/Vergewaltigung-in-Portugal-Mann-vor-Gericht,aktuellbraunschweig3482.html


Link to German equivalent of Panorama, which hopefully answers your questions. Page can be translated by google.

https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Haengen-Faelle-Maddie-und-Inga-zusammen-article21826687.html

The trial of a 43-year-old has started before the Braunschweig Regional Court. As reported by NDR 1 Lower Saxony, the man is said to have raped, mistreated and robbed a 72-year-old woman in her house in Portugal in 2005. The public prosecutor's office is essentially based on a DNA report, the results of which were not available until the end of 2018. The 43-year-old, who has been in custody since July, was charged.

No mention of name.

[Gertrude]

Is this the same policeman in the documentary linked above? He went on TV and talked about the suspects crimes.

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/06/03/world/europe/ap-eu-britain-missing-girl.html

"Christian Hoppe of Germany’s Federal Criminal Police Office told German public broadcaster ZDF that the suspect, a German citizen, is currently imprisoned in Germany for a sexual crime. At the time of Madeleine’s disappearance he was 30 years old. He spent numerous years in Portugal and has two previous convictions for “sexual contact with girls.”

[Gertrude]

The trial of a 43-year-old has started before the Braunschweig Regional Court. As reported by NDR 1 Lower Saxony, the man is said to have raped, mistreated and robbed a 72-year-old woman in her house in Portugal in 2005. The public prosecutor's office is essentially based on a DNA report, the results of which were not available until the end of 2018. The 43-year-old, who has been in custody since July, was charged.

No mention of name.

because of the German privacy laws. So what are you saying? It might be a different man who was also in Portugal at the time, committed a rape and the same age?

[misty]

The trial of a 43-year-old has started before the Braunschweig Regional Court. As reported by NDR 1 Lower Saxony, the man is said to have raped, mistreated and robbed a 72-year-old woman in her house in Portugal in 2005. The public prosecutor's office is essentially based on a DNA report, the results of which were not available until the end of 2018. The 43-year-old, who has been in custody since July, was charged.

No mention of name.

Why would he name be public before the trial had been concluded?

[Holly Goodhead]

Is this the same policeman in the documentary linked above? He went on TV and talked about the suspects crimes.

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/06/03/world/europe/ap-eu-britain-missing-girl.html

"Christian Hoppe of Germany’s Federal Criminal Police Office told German public broadcaster ZDF that the suspect, a German citizen, is currently imprisoned in Germany for a sexual crime. At the time of Madeleine’s disappearance he was 30 years old. He spent numerous years in Portugal and has two previous convictions for “sexual contact with girls.”

Were all these alleged charges and convictions delivered by the German judiciary? 

[Brietta]

Link to start of rape trial 5/12/19
https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/braunschweig_harz_goettingen/Vergewaltigung-in-Portugal-Mann-vor-Gericht,aktuellbraunschweig3482.html


Link to German equivalent of Panorama, which hopefully answers your questions. Page can be translated by google.

https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Haengen-Faelle-Maddie-und-Inga-zusammen-article21826687.html

Thank you very much for going to the bother of doing that Misty.  I would have thought it wouldn't have been necessary ... but there you are.

[Holly Goodhead]

Why would he name be public before the trial had been concluded?

Exactly.  Why is he being implicated in all these various child abductions/murders before any charges are brought let alone convictions!?

[jassi]

Exactly.  Why is he being implicated in all these various child abductions/murders before any charges are brought let alone convictions!?

Media hysteria for starters

[Holly Goodhead]

Thank you very much for going to the bother of doing that Misty.  I would have thought it wouldn't have been necessary ... but there you are.

Brie as a forum do you think we could somehow arrange to access CB's criminal file?

https://ecris.eu/

[misty]

Exactly.  Why is he being implicated in all these various child abductions/murders before any charges are brought let alone convictions!?

The German police didn't name him, did they? That was done by the media following the leakage of clues regarding the suspect's identity. Same thing happened to Murat in Portugal.