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Offline VIXTE

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1230 on: June 09, 2020, 03:00:31 PM »
I don't remember him ever saying that, where?

"All indications we have got that I can't tell you point in the direction that Madeleine is dead.


"We got things we cannot communicate that speak for the theory that Madeleine is dead, even if I have to admit that we don't have the body."

https://news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccann-german-prosecutor-has-evidence-british-girl-is-dead-12003094

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1231 on: June 09, 2020, 03:02:08 PM »
But the prosecutor said they have more than they are telling.

From whom will be interesting because they haven't even questioned the German suspect about this case.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1232 on: June 09, 2020, 03:17:21 PM »
"All indications we have got that I can't tell you point in the direction that Madeleine is dead.


"We got things we cannot communicate that speak for the theory that Madeleine is dead, even if I have to admit that we don't have the body."

https://news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccann-german-prosecutor-has-evidence-british-girl-is-dead-12003094

Thanks. That could refer to the alleged confession though as they are not going to tell us what was said in the alleged confession. It would still remain a confession made out of the police station and relayed by a 3rd party not the suspect.

I found a document on German Trials, page 19 has info on the 'pre trial investigation stage'.

The bolded bit is their emphasis

'At the end of the investigation, an indictment or termination order will be issued by the prosecutor and sent to the competent court.........The suspect is to be indicted whenever there are reasonable grounds to believe he or she might be convicted at the end of a trial

....The bill of indictment shall indicate the criminal offence with which the accused is charged, the time and place of commission.....'

https://www.justiceinitiative.org/uploads/cc4f8190-8afa-4513-9603-25ab7bc5bb46/universal-jurisdiction-law-and-practice-germany-20190417.pdf

  So they are in the pre-trial phase and the prosecutor must know there are no reasonable grounds at the moment that CB would be convicted on or they would have charged him.

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1233 on: June 09, 2020, 03:26:26 PM »
 So is the pre-trial stage the same as investigation stage ?

I would say they might still be in the early investigation stage
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Anthro

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1234 on: June 09, 2020, 03:30:16 PM »
So, I think they have a kind of indirect confession from him that also includes insight, that only the actual murderer of Maddie -  they’re treating this as a murder investigation - that only the actual murderer of Maddie McCann would know.

Only the murderer of MM would know? The PJ files were released in 2008. Anybody could read the files and learn about this case! They don't know if she was murdered without a body so what would only the murderer know?
Perhaps the position/location of Cuddle Cat when Kate realised Madeleine was not in her bed?

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1235 on: June 09, 2020, 03:33:32 PM »
So is the pre-trial stage the same as investigation stage ?

I would say they might still be in the early investigation stage

Yes I think so.

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1236 on: June 09, 2020, 03:34:20 PM »
It's not that I  even remotely think he should be innocent till proven guilty its obvious they have nothing.

Apart from him being a vile human being - there are thousands of them around

How many rapists pedophiles are in prison - even from Portugal he is not unique.

I can't believe this circus has warranted so much attention with media sky etc on just hearsay.

They are scraping the barrel for any information - that's usually when they are desperately grasping at straws. IMO

How will any sane person - if charged will think it credible after all the nonsensical news this week.

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1237 on: June 09, 2020, 03:35:14 PM »
Rape victim asks Madeleine McCann detectives to review her case
Exclusive: Irish woman says an earlier assault by new McCann suspect is similar to that on her

....................................................................

Behan added: “I had little hope over the last 16 years that they would find the man who did this. I was told at the time that I should just be quiet, that if I talked about what had happened I would bring bad publicity to the resort and put off the tourists.

“Then I read about the poor American woman who was raped in September 2005 – who I would love to talk to – and the possible link that was being made between her attack and the person who abducted Madeleine McCann, and I was so full of anger, I knew in my gut it was the right thing to do to speak out.

“I think if the police had done their job investigating what happened to me, if this is indeed the same man that attacked the American and abducted Madeleine McCann, they might have prevented the attack on her, and Madeleine would now be at home with her parents.”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/09/victim-asks-madeleine-mccann-detectives-review-her-case

Horrific case and I hope the young woman gets justice at last.

The case, however, does flag up that Brueckner, if he was the rapist, targets adult woman and leaves them alive after attacking them.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1238 on: June 09, 2020, 03:41:00 PM »
He seems a bit indiscriminate age wise, but no signs of previous killing of victims.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline VIXTE

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1239 on: June 09, 2020, 03:54:04 PM »
"Mr Reichelt said today Christian B has "knowledge" of the case that only the suspect could know, which led the authorities to say they believe Madeleine is dead."

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5681834/madeleine-mccann-missing-body-christian-b/

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1240 on: June 09, 2020, 03:54:37 PM »
Perhaps the position/location of Cuddle Cat when Kate realised Madeleine was not in her bed?

Or the odour on Cuddle Cat that Eddie alerted to may, imo, suggest MM died or bled in the apartment. Surely the German Police will have considered the dog alerts.

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1241 on: June 09, 2020, 03:57:04 PM »
"Mr Reichelt said today Christian B has "knowledge" of the case that only the suspect could know, which led the authorities to say they believe Madeleine is dead."

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5681834/madeleine-mccann-missing-body-christian-b/

Given the amount of publicity this case has engendered over the years, I find that difficult to believe.

How could Herr Reichelt know what only the suspect would know? 
« Last Edit: June 09, 2020, 04:00:43 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1242 on: June 09, 2020, 04:15:45 PM »
"Mr Reichelt said today Christian B has "knowledge" of the case that only the suspect could know, which led the authorities to say they believe Madeleine is dead."

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5681834/madeleine-mccann-missing-body-christian-b/

Reichelt is the editor of a tabloid, so that's his interpretation. If Christian B had knowledge only the suspect could know that means prosecutors must have established what happened without CB telling them. Doesn't make any sense.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1243 on: June 09, 2020, 04:18:25 PM »
Perhaps the position/location of Cuddle Cat when Kate realised Madeleine was not in her bed?

I and many others know that fact from the PJ files. They can't prove he was with MM without DNA evidence never mind abduct her.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2020, 04:21:13 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1244 on: June 09, 2020, 04:18:48 PM »
Reichelt is the editor of a tabloid, so that's his interpretation. If Christian B had knowledge only the suspect could know that means prosecutors must have established what happened without CB telling them. Doesn't make any sense.
It might next week when there might be more info