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Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1725 on: June 11, 2020, 04:33:56 PM »
Yes, I’d agree you were trying to whitewash over his crimes.  I didn’t however accuse you of sympathising with a child abuser. I really don’t know why some of you sceptics are keen to downplay the seriousness of this man’s past crimes, I’m certainly not the one playing games here.

I really don’t know why some of you sceptics are keen to downplay the seriousness of this man’s past

Well if your post isn't playing games - what is

I can't see anyone downplaying what a nasty piece of work he is,

The press is doing a good job of how vile he is - But if they are not careful he could be doing what the mccs did.

IMO

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1726 on: June 11, 2020, 04:36:36 PM »
Two things of interest in this article
1) The Germans categorically don’t think the McCanns had anything to do with the disappearance
2) Brückner’s lawyer resigned from the case and has been replaced by a “top” lawyer.  Has the Fund for this man’s defence team already reached a million thanks to Spam and his pals’ efforts?

Madeleine McCann murder case: counselling for suspect Christian Brückner
Madeleine McCann was abducted in May 2007
Madeleine McCann was abducted in May 2007
KATE MCCANN/PA
The convicted paedophile suspected of murdering Madeleine McCann is receiving counselling in prison while he is held in isolation to prevent other inmates attacking him.

Christian Brückner, who is serving a 21-month sentence for drug trafficking in Kiel, northern Germany, is being investigated over Madeleine’s abduction in May 2007.

Claus Christian Claussen, the justice minister of the northern state of Schleswig-Holstein, told a parliamentary hearing yesterday that Brückner, 43, has been placed in isolation so he can be “monitored more closely”. He was being protected, Mr Claussen added, to prevent “assaults by fellow prisoners” and was being given counselling during a “special psychological situation”.

While investigators continued to search for new leads yesterday, a senior German prosecutor suggested that officials in Portugal still believed Madeleine’s parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, from Rothley, Leicestershire, were responsible for her disappearance.

Hans Christian Wolters, the German prosecutor leading the investigation, said: “I think the Portuguese officials still think that Maddie’s parents are responsible for her disappearance.


“From our perspective, the suspect is in jail in Germany right now. And this is not the case for Maddie’s parents. We think that the parents don’t have anything to do with it. We are convinced that our 43-year-old suspect is the murderer of Maddie McCann.”

He appeared to criticise the Portuguese authorities by describing working relations as “more cumbersome” than those with Scotland Yard and said not all evidence is shared between the countries. “Working together with the authorities in south European countries is generally more time-consuming,” he added. “They take a long time for everything.”

Scotland Yard and German prosecutors made televised appeals last week for information about two homes, a camper van and a Jaguar car used by Brückner while he was living close to the McCann’s holiday apartment.

Brückner’s lawyer, Jan-Christian Hochmann, has resigned from the case but has not said why. Brückner has appointed one of Germany’s top lawyers, Johann Schwenn. Friedrich Fülscher, another lawyer representing Brückner, told RTL television that the suspect is “currently not providing any information” about the allegations he was involved in Madeleine’s murder.

When asked how Brückner was coping, he replied: “How should a person who is isolated in a correctional facility and who is accused by half the world’s population of the worst crimes?”

A friend of Brückner while he was in Praia da Luz told a court last year that the suspect had entered properties through open windows while living close to the McCann family’s holiday apartment, it emerged yesterday.

The patio windows of the apartment where Madeleine, three, was sleeping had been left open while her parents dined near by. Police say Brückner’s mobile telephone was used close to the scene less than an hour earlier.

The friend gave evidence at the trial in December which led to Brückner being convicted of raping a 72-year-old American woman after breaking into her villa in Praia da Luz in 2005.

The unnamed friend, a 52-year-old German, said he had noticed three stacks of passports in Brückner’s rented farmhouse. He told the judge that Brückner had explained to him that he had stolen the passports during “night walks”. The friend said: “He probably got into one or the other apartments through open windows.”

When Brückner was arrested he asked the friend to take items from his farmhouse and “noticed some self-burned CDs with labels about certain sexual practices”. Two other witnesses described in detail having found two video recordings in the house that showed Brückner in rape scenes.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1727 on: June 11, 2020, 04:40:01 PM »
I really don’t know why some of you sceptics are keen to downplay the seriousness of this man’s past

Well if your post isn't playing games - what is

I can't see anyone downplaying what a nasty piece of work he is,

The press is doing a good job of how vile he is - But if they are not careful he could be doing what the mccs did.

IMO
Then you’re not paying close attention. 
Spam suggested he may not be a paedo at all, just a 17 year old guy who was having a relationship with a 15 year old girl.  Jassi and Gertrude only seemed to recall the conviction for “a sex act in front of a minor” and when I reminded Jassi that he was also convicted of child abuse she replied “hardly the crime of the century”.  Now, in any reasonable person’s book that is downplaying the seriousness of his crimes. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1729 on: June 11, 2020, 04:43:02 PM »
I must have missed Redwood supplying the public with a description of the clothing Smithman was wearing that night, such was the importance of identifying the man.

Redwood showed two photo fits,what would the benefit of knowing what smithmans clothing be? this was 7 yrs after the fact,its people they want not styling.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1731 on: June 11, 2020, 04:46:29 PM »
Redwood showed two photo fits,what would the benefit of knowing what smithmans clothing be? this was 7 yrs after the fact,its people they want not styling.
As the Smiths claimed never to have got a good look at his face it’s safe to say they relied heavily on their imaginations when describing it.  Presumably they had a better idea of what he was wearing so what harm in mentioning it?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Angelo222

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1732 on: June 11, 2020, 04:47:53 PM »
Then you’re not paying close attention. 
Spam suggested he may not be a paedo at all, just a 17 year old guy who was having a relationship with a 15 year old girl.  Jassi and Gertrude only seemed to recall the conviction for “a sex act in front of a minor” and when I reminded Jassi that he was also convicted of child abuse she replied “hardly the crime of the century”.  Now, in any reasonable person’s book that is downplaying the seriousness of his crimes.

I agree with you VS, he was a bit of a cad and carried a gun around to make himself look tough.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1733 on: June 11, 2020, 04:52:33 PM »
I agree with you VS, he was a bit of a cad and carried a gun around to make himself look tough.
”A bit of a cad”??  Now you’re at it!!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1734 on: June 11, 2020, 04:57:38 PM »
I agree with you VS, he was a bit of a cad and carried a gun around to make himself look tough.


I’d put it a bit stronger, he was more of a bounder.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1735 on: June 11, 2020, 05:02:12 PM »
Yes, I’d agree you were trying to whitewash over his crimes.  I didn’t however accuse you of sympathising with a child abuser. I really don’t know why some of you sceptics are keen to downplay the seriousness of this man’s past crimes, I’m certainly not the one playing games here.

You've decided I tried to downplay his crimes. The Times and the Telegraph ( which I had been reading)  also summarised his early offences ( not giving the number of counts) and did not use the term 'child abuse'. So maybe take your pitchforks over to their offices.
Of course people summarise things to be concise but apparently I'm not allowed to do the same. I'm done with it now thanks.
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Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1736 on: June 11, 2020, 05:22:24 PM »
Ok its the fail,but doesn't look as if there is much cooperation going on.

Caveat, Rowley 2017:There are odd headlines and odd stories in newspapers on a regular basis and most of those are
nonsense.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8411085/Portuguese-police-incensed-German-prosecutors-claims-theyve-slow-help-Madeleine-probe.html

EXCLUSIVE: Portuguese police are 'incensed' by German prosecutors' claims that they have been slow to help Madeleine McCann investigation after paedophile Christian Brueckner was identified as prime suspect
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1737 on: June 11, 2020, 05:40:47 PM »
Ok its the fail,but doesn't look as if there is much cooperation going on.

Caveat, Rowley 2017:There are odd headlines and odd stories in newspapers on a regular basis and most of those are
nonsense.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8411085/Portuguese-police-incensed-German-prosecutors-claims-theyve-slow-help-Madeleine-probe.html

EXCLUSIVE: Portuguese police are 'incensed' by German prosecutors' claims that they have been slow to help Madeleine McCann investigation after paedophile Christian Brueckner was identified as prime suspect

Well done those Germans. Criticising Southern European countries for being slow wasn't a smart move imo.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1738 on: June 11, 2020, 05:44:24 PM »
You've decided I tried to downplay his crimes. The Times and the Telegraph ( which I had been reading)  also summarised his early offences ( not giving the number of counts) and did not use the term 'child abuse'. So maybe take your pitchforks over to their offices.
Of course people summarise things to be concise but apparently I'm not allowed to do the same. I'm done with it now thanks.
What term did they use, out of interest?  Do you have a cite?  You summarised “child abuse” with the much longer “sexual activity in front of a child”.  How concise!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #1739 on: June 11, 2020, 05:45:46 PM »
Ok its the fail,but doesn't look as if there is much cooperation going on.

Caveat, Rowley 2017:There are odd headlines and odd stories in newspapers on a regular basis and most of those are
nonsense.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8411085/Portuguese-police-incensed-German-prosecutors-claims-theyve-slow-help-Madeleine-probe.html

EXCLUSIVE: Portuguese police are 'incensed' by German prosecutors' claims that they have been slow to help Madeleine McCann investigation after paedophile Christian Brueckner was identified as prime suspect
So do they think Bruckner is a credible suspect or not? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".