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Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2085 on: June 15, 2020, 01:32:00 AM »
The German authorities don't appear to be letting the grass grow under their feet when it comes to looking for evidence and the good thing about it is the Portuguese authorities seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet.


Attack on a 10-year-old British girl in Praia da Luz two years before Madeleine McCann disappeared forms part of German inquiries into prime suspect Brückner – as prosecutor reveals Madeleine may still be alivehttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8419537/Attack-girl-Praia-da-Luz-forms-German-inquiries.html

They’ve had this individual’s name for years.....not letting the grass grow....they’d need an industrial mower to tackle the pasture that’s grown up around their ankles.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline sadie

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2086 on: June 15, 2020, 02:32:18 AM »
Didn't the German police say so?

Try keeping abreast of the news Angelo

BTW, you owe me at least one cite.

You can find the request quite easily if you go back thru my posts.   

Offline Anthro

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2087 on: June 15, 2020, 06:34:18 AM »
The German authorities don't appear to be letting the grass grow under their feet when it comes to looking for evidence and the good thing about it is the Portuguese authorities seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet.


Attack on a 10-year-old British girl in Praia da Luz two years before Madeleine McCann disappeared forms part of German inquiries into prime suspect Brückner – as prosecutor reveals Madeleine may still be alivehttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8419537/Attack-girl-Praia-da-Luz-forms-German-inquiries.html
‘Meanwhile, Mr Wolters said today that a single piece of evidence made him 100 per cent certain Madeleine was murdered. Earlier, he had said there was “a little bit of hope” that she might yet be found. It left a source close to parents Kate and Gerry saying they were considering sending an envoy to Germany to demand answers’.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11862187/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-b-attack-british-girl/

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2088 on: June 15, 2020, 08:27:34 AM »
‘Meanwhile, Mr Wolters said today that a single piece of evidence made him 100 per cent certain Madeleine was murdered. Earlier, he had said there was “a little bit of hope” that she might yet be found. It left a source close to parents Kate and Gerry saying they were considering sending an envoy to Germany to demand answers’.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11862187/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-b-attack-british-girl/

I would have thought it was worth going in person to Germany and asking for answers. Sending a demanding messenger sounds a bit pretentious to me.
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Offline kizzy

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« Reply #2089 on: June 15, 2020, 09:38:06 AM »
The German authorities don't appear to be letting the grass grow under their feet when it comes to looking for evidence and the good thing about it is the Portuguese authorities seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet.


Attack on a 10-year-old British girl in Praia da Luz two years before Madeleine McCann disappeared forms part of German inquiries into prime suspect Brückner – as prosecutor reveals Madeleine may still be alivehttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8419537/Attack-girl-Praia-da-Luz-forms-German-inquiries.html

authorities seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet


It only seems - do you know if it is a german hymn or Portuguese.

Seems the mccs are not singing on it -  when they are going to send an envoy to demand answers

What a lark this is.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2090 on: June 15, 2020, 09:55:04 AM »
authorities seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet


It only seems - do you know if it is a german hymn or Portuguese.

Seems the mccs are not singing on it -  when they are going to send an envoy to demand answers

What a lark this is.

i would say the sensible thing to do would be to wait and see what comes of this rather than pointless speculation...that sounds sensible imo

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2091 on: June 15, 2020, 09:56:10 AM »
I would have thought it was worth going in person to Germany and asking for answers. Sending a demanding messenger sounds a bit pretentious to me.

Isn't that the idea of FLO's ?
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2092 on: June 15, 2020, 10:19:08 AM »
I would have thought it was worth going in person to Germany and asking for answers. Sending a demanding messenger sounds a bit pretentious to me.

While we are just coming out of lock down?  I hardly think a trip to Germany would be appropriate not to say counter productive.  Unless you would condone the 'media circus' it would certainly cause.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2093 on: June 15, 2020, 10:23:01 AM »
Isn't that the idea of FLO's ?

FLO's are there to support the family and to gather any relevant evidence from them. I don't know who would provide them in this case. An envoy demanding answers is something different to an FLO.

Unlike OG the Germans aren't, afaik, in contact with the McCanns or beholden to them in any way. The German government didn't ask their police to get involved to 'help the family' as the Met did. They're under no obligation imo to inform anyone what evidence or theories they have.
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« Reply #2094 on: June 15, 2020, 10:26:19 AM »
While we are just coming out of lock down?  I hardly think a trip to Germany would be appropriate not to say counter productive.  Unless you would condone the 'media circus' it would certainly cause.

What has lock down got to do with it? Our media clowns haven't let it stop them galloping around Europe so why should those closest to the case let it stop them?
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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2095 on: June 15, 2020, 10:29:50 AM »
authorities seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet


It only seems - do you know if it is a german hymn or Portuguese.

Seems the mccs are not singing on it -  when they are going to send an envoy to demand answers

What a lark this is.
I think the choir is in three parts and I don't think it is too difficult in retrospect to work out why the Brits were doing digging up parts of Luz in 2014 with the full cooperation of the Judicial Police.

Although I do think the Germans had jumped the gun a bit ...
Madeleine McCann case: 'Huge mistake' to notify suspect he was person of interest
https://www.thenational.scot/news/18517311.madeleine-mccann-case-huge-mistake-notify-suspect-person-interest/


By the way when enjoying the 'lark' please take a moment to remember Madeleine and anyone else who were victims of a predatory paedophile or serious sexual assault in the Algarve before and after Madeleine's disappearance.


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« Last Edit: June 15, 2020, 10:32:28 AM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2096 on: June 15, 2020, 10:32:30 AM »
The McCanns must storm the bastions of The German Judiciary in person.  What a not very good idea.

And what would be the purpose of that?

I don't know what The Germans think they are up to but it seems to be more to do with keeping Bruckner in jail on a Rape Conviction that they might have cocked up Internationally, than to do with finding out what happened to Madeleine McCann.

And who is this German Idiot who can't understand why it is important for The British to believe that Madeleine could still be alive.  Let alone her parents.

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2097 on: June 15, 2020, 10:46:38 AM »
What has lock down got to do with it? Our media clowns haven't let it stop them galloping around Europe so why should those closest to the case let it stop them?

Please don't be any sillier about this non-issue than is absolutely necessary.  I am surprised at you for advocating another media circus to be endured for Madeleine's family who probably haven't been able to bury Gerry's mother and the granny who never gave up hope on Madeleine.

I don't think it would be appropriate or necessary for Kate and Gerry to go to Germany.  Recent changes to the prosecutor's media statements suggest to me that someone somewhere has already had a quiet word.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2098 on: June 15, 2020, 11:18:14 AM »

 - Suspect saying nothing, according to the Times/Mirror.   He would have to be charged with something.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-will-refuse-22192488

'According to the newspaper, Brueckner's lawyer Friedrich Fulscher said: "Mr B is remaining silent on the allegation at this time on the advice of his defence counsel. This is quite common in criminal proceedings.

"It is the duty of the state to prove that a suspect committed a crime. No accused person has to prove his innocence to the investigating authorities."

According to German law an indictment/charge needs 4 things;

“a) the identity of the accused;
b) the facts of the offence with which he is charged,
c) the time and place of its commission;
d) the legal elements of the offence and the applicable provisions.”

Excerpt From: Bohlander, Michael. “Principles of German Criminal Procedure.”

   It seems a very long shot to be able to establish such facts from a witness appeal, they already have some testimony of an alleged confession but that could easily be dismissed. Unless he had an accomplice or someone that saw what he allegedly did in 5a, how could they prove it to a reasonable standard for a charge?. Then that all has to fit into the short time window of that night IMO.



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Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2099 on: June 15, 2020, 11:24:11 AM »
Please don't be any sillier about this non-issue than is absolutely necessary.  I am surprised at you for advocating another media circus to be endured for Madeleine's family who probably haven't been able to bury Gerry's mother and the granny who never gave up hope on Madeleine.

I don't think it would be appropriate or necessary for Kate and Gerry to go to Germany.  Recent changes to the prosecutor's media statements suggest to me that someone somewhere has already had a quiet word.


I am surprised at you for bringing up gmcc when there are thousands n thousands in the same situation.

Why do you not think your post was really inappropriate  - or are you strumming for sympathy for that pair again.

What about the envoy they are sending - ok for them to travel then as long as it isn't them.

They should be the one's going - Maddie is their child.
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