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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2130 on: June 15, 2020, 04:51:55 PM »
Maybe to some, I recognise legally they have never been charged or found guilty of anything.

The archiving report said they lost the chance to prove their innocence...what a stupid thing to say

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2131 on: June 15, 2020, 04:54:12 PM »
How do you expect the prosecutor's words to make it over to us, unless it is reported somewhere?

The difference is it's a direct quote from the prosecutor's mouth. Not the same as a report that speculates about what the McCanns may or may not be shown in a meeting.

We can see his actual words on a video.  What you have produced is a newspaper report claiming these ate his actual words without any context. The report does not guarantee accuracy

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2132 on: June 15, 2020, 05:03:49 PM »
We can see his actual words on a video.  What you have produced is a newspaper report claiming these ate his actual words without any context. The report does not guarantee accuracy

And.....A video might require translation, or you could say English isn't his first language...It would be ridiculous for anyone to try and suggest 100% accuracy from a transcribed interview, so I didn't. There is context there if you read it.
 If you think it's likely him saying 3 times in the same interview there are 'no facts' is made up or by chance you are being unreasonable IMO.

'I have no facts for this.'

I't was only a personal... without facts.'

'but there are no facts for this.'

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2133 on: June 15, 2020, 05:10:54 PM »
If directly attributed speech in a  media report is unacceptable, then it is pointless asking anyone for a cite.

Mods please take note.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2134 on: June 15, 2020, 05:36:01 PM »
Yes I posted the entire quote and link earlier.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/madeleine-mccann-may-still-alive-22189090

'Asked about saying Madeleine was quickly killed, he added: “This was only a personal statement. I have no facts for this.

"That was only my private opinion and speculation.


"It was only a personal... without facts.

"I don’t know everything.

“I said, ‘I believe because of other cases where children were kidnapped, they made a sexual crime and then they killed’.

“That it is what happened in other cases and I believe this is a typical case but there are no facts for this. It is only my private view.”
That doesn’t mean he doesn’t have strong evidence that she is dead, only that it is not a proven fact that she was killed quickly and after a sexual crime was perpetrated on her.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2135 on: June 15, 2020, 05:40:20 PM »
If directly attributed speech in a  media report is unacceptable, then it is pointless asking anyone for a cite.

Mods please take note.

In which case it is pointless asking for a Cite for anything in Portuguese regarding The McCanns.

Offline Gertrude

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2136 on: June 15, 2020, 06:03:54 PM »
That doesn’t mean he doesn’t have strong evidence that she is dead, only that it is not a proven fact that she was killed quickly and after a sexual crime was perpetrated on her.

Possibly but he does seem to be saying the reason it's classed as murder is because they have based it on what would have happened in other kidnaps of a small child.

'Wolters conceded his theory about Madeleine was based on previous cases involving missing children and paedophiles.

A prosecutor of 17 years, he said: “Because there is no forensic evidence, there may be a little bit of hope [that she is alive].

“We don’t want to kill the hope and because there is no forensic evidence it may be
theoretically possible.''


Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2137 on: June 15, 2020, 06:04:57 PM »
Nothing to rule him in, but nothing to rule him out either it would seem.

I think that my glass would be full that it isn't him - being I don't believe Maddie was abducted.

Although if it did turn out to be him which I  think is highly unlikely - I would be devasted for Maddie.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2138 on: June 15, 2020, 06:05:42 PM »
If directly attributed speech in a  media report is unacceptable, then it is pointless asking anyone for a cite.

Mods please take note.

It's not pointless asking for a cite.. The rules say a cite should be provided.  It's perfectly reasonable to question the reliability of a cite

Offline Anthro

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2139 on: June 15, 2020, 06:11:20 PM »
I think that my glass would be full that it isn't him - being I don't believe Maddie was abducted.

Although if it did turn out to be him which I  think is highly unlikely - I would be devasted for Maddie.
What, according to you, happened to Madeleine if she wasn’t abducted?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2140 on: June 15, 2020, 06:18:58 PM »
I think that my glass would be full that it isn't him - being I don't believe Maddie was abducted.

Although if it did turn out to be him which I  think is highly unlikely - I would be devasted for Maddie.
I find it odd that some people seem to think that they occupy the moral high ground because they refuse to countenance the possibility that Madeleine was abducted and killed by a pardophile and that anyone who does think it’s likely this German paedo guy did it is somehow happy about it.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2141 on: June 15, 2020, 06:23:08 PM »
I think that my glass would be full that it isn't him - being I don't believe Maddie was abducted.

Although if it did turn out to be him which I  think is highly unlikely - I would be devasted for Maddie.
I certainly wouldnt be devastated... I already feel sorry for Maddie and her family but not devastated

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2142 on: June 15, 2020, 06:25:17 PM »
I find it odd that some people seem to think that they occupy the moral high ground because they refuse to countenance the possibility that Madeleine was abducted and killed by a pardophile and that anyone who does think it’s likely this German paedo guy did it is somehow happy about it.

I think it's a reasonable possibility it was him

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2143 on: June 15, 2020, 06:30:33 PM »
In which case it is pointless asking for a Cite for anything in Portuguese regarding The McCanns.

You make (or enforce) the rules on cites, not us.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #2144 on: June 15, 2020, 06:35:18 PM »
You make (or enforce) the rules on cites, not us.

Since I very rarely give Cites I am equally reluctant to ask for them.