Author Topic: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.  (Read 2813860 times)

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4875 on: July 05, 2020, 06:48:59 PM »
Read her sentence again. Kizzy is expressing an opinion. A libellous statement would state something as fact.

It is perfectly reasonable to freely express your own opinion - provided of course the statement isn't intended to incite violence.
”I think you’re a paedophile”.  Is that perfectly reasonable and not remotely libellous?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4876 on: July 05, 2020, 06:49:07 PM »
Read her sentence again. Kizzy is expressing an opinion. A libellous statement would state something as fact.

It is perfectly reasonable to freely express your own opinion - provided of course the statement isn't intended to incite violence.

you too confirm everything I think about sceptics. Stating an opinion is libellous ...unless specific critera are met. ...but what would I know...im just another poster...it seems i know  alot.

Google libel defence...honest opinion...and you will see you are completely wrong

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4877 on: July 05, 2020, 06:49:29 PM »
May I suggest that no one does this again.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4878 on: July 05, 2020, 06:51:05 PM »
As the German police are only expressing an opinion that Christian B is involved in Madeleinee’s disappearance there is no way they can be accused of libelling him, just so’s we’ve got that one straight!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4879 on: July 05, 2020, 06:52:15 PM »
whats clear is how little understanding of libel there is by some posters on the forum

Offline Anthro

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4880 on: July 05, 2020, 06:52:57 PM »
Didn’t I read that the video of the rape was destroyed by the friends who found it ? Wouldn’t all decent people have gone to the police with it ? All in all it’s beginning to sound like the letter allegedly sent to Hewlett’s son.
Perhaps not if they themselves had a criminal record?

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4881 on: July 05, 2020, 06:53:15 PM »
As the German police are only expressing an opinion that Christian B is involved in Madeleinee’s disappearance there is no way they can be accused of libelling him, just so’s we’ve got that one straight!

They haven't named him anyway.
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4882 on: July 05, 2020, 06:57:16 PM »
”I think you’re a paedophile”.  Is that perfectly reasonable and not remotely libellous?

It's quite juvenile and not backed up by any supporting evidence. The lack of supporting evidence might make you fall foul of libel laws since how can it be a genuinely held belief rather than just an insult?

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4883 on: July 05, 2020, 06:58:56 PM »
May I suggest that no one does this again.

Which bit?

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4884 on: July 05, 2020, 07:03:58 PM »
Which bit?

Anything directly pointing to the guilt of The McCanns.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4885 on: July 05, 2020, 07:10:56 PM »
It's quite juvenile and not backed up by any supporting evidence. The lack of supporting evidence might make you fall foul of libel laws since how can it be a genuinely held belief rather than just an insult?

so you now accept an opinion can be libellous

Offline faithlilly

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4886 on: July 05, 2020, 07:13:58 PM »
Perhaps not if they themselves had a criminal record?

Then should they be believed about the tape in the first place ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4887 on: July 05, 2020, 07:14:17 PM »
Anything directly pointing to the guilt of The McCanns.

Has anyone done that just now - I don't see it???

What about directly pointing to the guilt of CB?

I was about to write without a court conviction we are all presumed innocent.... but then what about Fred West or Jimmy Saville? It's a minefield!!

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4888 on: July 05, 2020, 07:16:39 PM »
Has anyone done that just now - I don't see it???

What about directly pointing to the guilt of CB?

I was about to write without a court conviction we are all presumed innocent.... but then what about Fred West or Jimmy Saville? It's a minefield!!

Not if you understand libel law...you cant libel the dead

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4889 on: July 05, 2020, 07:18:43 PM »
so you now accept an opinion can be libellous

Kizzy has offered sound rational explanations for her belief. As you have with regards to your opinion that you're almost certain that CB is guilty. I don't think the expression of either opinion is libellous in these particular examples.