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Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8325 on: October 12, 2020, 10:01:26 PM »
Disingenuous at best.

Mark Rowley in a question and answer session 2017:Q: You’ve talked about 600 people. You at one point had four suspects. Can you tell me the story
about how they came into the frame?
MR: So, one of the lines of enquiry, one of the hypotheses was could this be a burglary gone wrong?
Someone is doing a burglary, panicked maybe by a waking child, which leads to Madeleine going
missing.

Q: Most burglars would just run out.
MR: Possibly.
Q: Difficult for the public to understand that potential theory, given that every child wakes up.
MR: In my experience, if you try to apply the rational logic of a normal person sat in their front room to
what criminals do under pressure, you tend to make mistakes, so it was a sensible hypothesis, it’s still
not entirely ruled out, but there was also lots of material about people acting suspiciously, a potential
history of some recent thefts from holiday apartments. Working through that it was a sensible thing to
pursue, and we had some descriptions to work with, and that led to us identifying amongst the 600, a
group of people who were worth pursuing, have they been involved in this activity, have they had a
role in Madeleine going missing? Because what the hypothesis was, then we’ve got some searches,
we’ve worked with the Portuguese, they were spoken to, and we pretty much closed off that group of
people. That’s one example of the journey I spoke about, you start with this massive pool of evidence,
you understand it, structure it, prioritise it, you work through and you try and sift the potential
suspects, and then you end up where we are today with some key lines of enquiry.
Q: As I understand it, the key to your suspicion about those four suspects was very much to do with
their use of mobile phones and one of the criticisms of the original Portuguese police investigation
was that they didn’t interrogate the mobile phone data as thoroughly as they could have done. How
important was it for you as that part of your investigation for you to pick up and thoroughly investigate
the mobile phone data?
MR: So that phone data is always something we will look at and we wouldn’t have had it available if
the Portuguese had not got hold of it at the time so we need to be careful about criticism. But we had
the data available and we worked with the Portuguese and that was part of the background to do with
phone data and various sightings. There was enough there to say, not to prove the case, but there
was something worth looking at in more detail and that’s what we did.
Q: How old were the suspects because I think you interviewed them originally through the Portuguese
beginning of July 2014?
MR: By the end of the year we were happy to have brought them out and we were moving on to other
parts of the investigation.



You've totally lost me, I haven't a clue what you think is 'disingenuous' about your link.

"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8326 on: October 12, 2020, 10:48:40 PM »
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner's lawyer says he's found proof he is innocent
EXCLUSIVE Friedrich Fuelscher said he has examined the areas around the flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal, where Madeleine McCann went missing and he now has proof Christian Brueckner is innocent


Suspect Christian Brueckner was in Praia da Luz at the time Madeleine went missing according to mobile phone records (Image: Via REUTERS)
Christian Brueckner’s lawyer claims he has found proof his client did not abduct Madeleine McCann.

Friedrich Fuelscher examined the areas around the flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal, where the McCanns stayed when Madeleine, three, vanished between 9.10pm and 10pm on May 3, 2007.

Mr Fuelscher said: “If the witness statements are correct, there was a time window of one minute and 30 seconds in which the child could have been abducted.”

Mobile phone records put Brueckner, 43, in Praia da Luz at the time Madeleine went missing.

But after timing distances from various places in the resort to the flat, Mr Fuelscher declared: “My client did not commit this crime.”


Madeleine was abducted in 2007 from a flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal (Image: PA)
German chief prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters has said there is “material evidence” Madeleine is dead.

Brueckner has previously been convicted of a string of charges including possession of child sex images and the rape of a pensioner

He is currently serving a 21-month sentence in Kiel, northern Germany, on drug dealing charges.

But he claims he had nothing to do with Madeleine’s disappearance.

The convicted paedophile is in a prison in Kiel, northern Germany, for drug trafficking and raping a 72-year-old American woman in the Algarve.

The rape occurred about 18 months before three-year-old Madeleine, from Rothley, Leicestershire, vanished.

Brueckner was jailed for seven years for the attack on the American woman and 21 months for drug trafficking.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8327 on: October 12, 2020, 10:49:58 PM »
Well that’s sorted then.  Bruckner is innocent.  That just leaves the McCanns in the frame now.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8328 on: October 12, 2020, 11:44:34 PM »
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner's lawyer says he's found proof he is innocent
EXCLUSIVE Friedrich Fuelscher said he has examined the areas around the flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal, where Madeleine McCann went missing and he now has proof Christian Brueckner is innocent


Suspect Christian Brueckner was in Praia da Luz at the time Madeleine went missing according to mobile phone records (Image: Via REUTERS)
Christian Brueckner’s lawyer claims he has found proof his client did not abduct Madeleine McCann.

Friedrich Fuelscher examined the areas around the flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal, where the McCanns stayed when Madeleine, three, vanished between 9.10pm and 10pm on May 3, 2007.

Mr Fuelscher said: “If the witness statements are correct, there was a time window of one minute and 30 seconds in which the child could have been abducted.”

Mobile phone records put Brueckner, 43, in Praia da Luz at the time Madeleine went missing.

But after timing distances from various places in the resort to the flat, Mr Fuelscher declared: “My client did not commit this crime.”


Madeleine was abducted in 2007 from a flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal (Image: PA)
German chief prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters has said there is “material evidence” Madeleine is dead.

Brueckner has previously been convicted of a string of charges including possession of child sex images and the rape of a pensioner

He is currently serving a 21-month sentence in Kiel, northern Germany, on drug dealing charges.

But he claims he had nothing to do with Madeleine’s disappearance.

The convicted paedophile is in a prison in Kiel, northern Germany, for drug trafficking and raping a 72-year-old American woman in the Algarve.

The rape occurred about 18 months before three-year-old Madeleine, from Rothley, Leicestershire, vanished.

Brueckner was jailed for seven years for the attack on the American woman and 21 months for drug trafficking.

He says "Friedrich Fuelscher examined the areas around the flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal, where the McCanns stayed when Madeleine, three, vanished between 9.10pm and 10pm on May 3, 2007."   But has additionally narrowed the window of opportunity to  a 90 second period.
"“If the witness statements are correct, there was a time window of one minute and 30 seconds in which the child could have been abducted.”

What was this period?  Was it 9:48 PM - 9:50 PM?

"But after timing distances from various places in the resort to the flat, Mr Fuelscher declared: “My client did not commit this crime.”  Well they must be getting very close to who may have done it.   Someone could have taken Madeleine to CB  rather than CB being there.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8329 on: October 13, 2020, 07:13:48 AM »
I did fall off my chair though.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8330 on: October 13, 2020, 08:07:56 AM »
HCW has said he has enough evidence to show that his suspect killed MM.......I dont see how anyone can simply dismiss that as nothing. It has to have some significance


Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8331 on: October 13, 2020, 08:10:24 AM »
HCW has said he has enough evidence to show that his suspect killed MM.......I dont see how anyone can simply dismiss that as nothing. It has to have some significance
Fulscher hasn’t a clue what the evidence which must be very frustrating for him and his client.  Perhaps that’s why he keeps feeding the media daft interviews. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8332 on: October 13, 2020, 08:14:21 AM »
He says "Friedrich Fuelscher examined the areas around the flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal, where the McCanns stayed when Madeleine, three, vanished between 9.10pm and 10pm on May 3, 2007."   But has additionally narrowed the window of opportunity to  a 90 second period.
"“If the witness statements are correct, there was a time window of one minute and 30 seconds in which the child could have been abducted.”

What was this period?  Was it 9:48 PM - 9:50 PM?

"But after timing distances from various places in the resort to the flat, Mr Fuelscher declared: “My client did not commit this crime.”  Well they must be getting very close to who may have done it.   Someone could have taken Madeleine to CB  rather than CB being there.

Looks like no alibi as I suspected

Offline The General

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8333 on: October 13, 2020, 08:30:11 AM »
Looks like no alibi as I suspected
Funny, I read that as these 'various places' as one of them being the place where CB told FF he was - his alibi.
So he checks the timings and quickly realises that they don't scan. It could be lies from CB of course, but at this point that would be utterly futile and something that FF would obviously personally verify.
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8334 on: October 13, 2020, 08:33:59 AM »
Looks like no alibi as I suspected

He doesn't need one to satisfy the press where the investigation is being conducted, Wolters doesn't have anything to charge him with.
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Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8335 on: October 13, 2020, 08:57:26 AM »
According to Heriberto OG looked at those four men because he suggested they might be involved.

We all know where that went.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8336 on: October 13, 2020, 09:03:55 AM »
I’d like to know where he gets 90 seconds from.  Based on what witness statements exactly?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline The General

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8337 on: October 13, 2020, 09:14:12 AM »
He doesn't need one to satisfy the press where the investigation is being conducted, Wolters doesn't have anything to charge him with.
Flaky evidence, which it obviously is, can be readily batted away with flimsy explanations, if any explanation is required at all. Put him in another location with a solid witness, then that's Jenga.
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8338 on: October 13, 2020, 09:14:37 AM »
I’d like to know where he gets 90 seconds from.  Based on what witness statements exactly?

Not hard to work out if its insisted Tannerman was the bogey man.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #8339 on: October 13, 2020, 09:19:05 AM »
Not hard to work out if its insisted Tannerman was the bogey man.
I must have missed the bit where the Germans insisted Tannerman was CB.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".