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Offline John

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13275 on: June 03, 2021, 11:43:30 PM »
Amaral though the dogs proved maddie died in the apartment... They didnt. Amaral is making excuses for his own failings

It is one possibility among many.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Online Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13276 on: June 03, 2021, 11:46:21 PM »
Don't be silly Dave, Gonçalo was there, and saw and heard a hell of a lot more than is reported in the files. In those circumstances he was best placed to solve the case but we all now know he was thwarted by the English authorities who refused to undertake certain requests relating to Madeleine's parents and the tapas group. Then there was the fiasco involving the FSS, a now disbanded discredited organisation.

Oh Dear.  This has to be The End.  Are you absolutely sure that you want me to be a Moderator?

And is there any wonder for why I wondered?

Offline John

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13277 on: June 03, 2021, 11:47:44 PM »
A German poster on Websleuths quotes Wolters from a podcast explaining what he has done over the last year and exactly why he did it.
Wolters has also claimed much of what has been reported in the media is inaccurate - for example he has never claimed that Madeleine died in Portugal.

I have listened to the podcast and read the brief precis underneath.
I have not seen any media reports addressing what Wolters who is at the centre of all of this has actually said publicly - the 'news' of the day being Brueckner's former friends speculation about what the Germans are doing and why they are taking so long about doing it.
The real deal has detailed the facts but it seems the money is on opinions from folk who know nothing.

Keep your chin up Eleanor - you could well be proved right

I'm convinced Wolters is yet another chancer and that his plea for information was his last throw of the dice.  That came up empty too just like Redwood.
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A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13278 on: June 03, 2021, 11:53:52 PM »
Oh Dear.  This has to be The End.  Are you absolutely sure that you want me to be a Moderator?

And is there any wonder for why I wondered?

You can't alter historical facts simply to appease a modern narrative.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Online Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13279 on: June 04, 2021, 12:12:16 AM »
You can't alter historical facts simply to appease a modern narrative.

Obfuscation at its finest.  But you are The Boss and this Forum has never been a Democracy.

Sheesh, I might die laughing in a minute.  If only I had sussed this sooner.

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13280 on: June 04, 2021, 12:35:20 AM »
I'm convinced Wolters is yet another chancer and that his plea for information was his last throw of the dice.  That came up empty too just like Redwood.

I think his hand was forced by Amaral showing the media exactly which stone to turn over for Brueckner's name to crawl out from.

I think it was very far from his last throw of the dice but I think it may ultimately prove to be Amaral's undoing.

Was it really possible for him to be as incompetent as he was when co-ordinating Madeleine's case?  Was there indeed a conspiracy ~ I think if there was one Amaral might be found to have had a finger in the pie or maybe even more than one.
One surely doesn't put misinformation into the public domain the way he has been caught doing without having a very murky reason for doing so.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Online Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13281 on: June 04, 2021, 01:22:45 AM »
I think his hand was forced by Amaral showing the media exactly which stone to turn over for Brueckner's name to crawl out from.

I think it was very far from his last throw of the dice but I think it may ultimately prove to be Amaral's undoing.

Was it really possible for him to be as incompetent as he was when co-ordinating Madeleine's case?  Was there indeed a conspiracy ~ I think if there was one Amaral might be found to have had a finger in the pie or maybe even more than one.
One surely doesn't put misinformation into the public domain the way he has been caught doing without having a very murky reason for doing so.

Tis difficult isn't it.  I have long believed that Cristovao and Amaral had something to do with this.  Hence their reasons for being so vociferous against The McCanns.

Am I allowed to say this in my opinion?

But I wouldn't half like to see their phone movements on that night.

So let's get down and dirty on these two.

Offline Heriberto Janosch

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13282 on: June 04, 2021, 01:26:24 AM »
Don't be silly Dave, Gonçalo was there, and saw and heard a hell of a lot more than is reported in the files. In those circumstances he was best placed to solve the case but we all now know he was thwarted by the English authorities who refused to undertake certain requests relating to Madeleine's parents and the tapas group. Then there was the fiasco involving the FSS, a now disbanded discredited organisation.

I think GA had access to the files only in the first 5 months, and I am not sure he read them in that period. After being fired he lost access to the files until July, 2008, where they were made public ... It seems that in the beggining he was searching for a rapid solution, so he took into account the sayings of a journalist, and focused all his efforts in Murat ... When it became obvious that Murat was not guilty, he desperately tried to involved the McCanns, focusing all his efforts in them, with no results ... The first five months lost ... No alternative hypothesis was tested: for example, burglary that went wrong, paedo, or a combination of the two ... CB has an "interesting profile", like the OC driver, JCFdS ... But a "profile" is not enough.
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Online Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13283 on: June 04, 2021, 01:38:37 AM »
I think GA had access to the files only in the first 5 months, and I am not sure he read them in that period. After being fired he lost access to the files until July, 2008, where they were made public ... It seems that in the beggining he was searching for a rapid solution, so he took into account the sayings of a journalist, and focused all his efforts in Murat ... When it became obvious that Murat was not guilty, he desperately tried to involved the McCanns, focusing all his efforts in them, with no results ... The first five months lost ... No alternative hypothesis was tested: for example, burglary that went wrong, paedo, or a combination of the two ... CB has an "interesting profile", like the OC driver, JCFdS ... But a "profile" is not enough.

Do you think that Amaral or Cristavoa could have been involved in this?

Just a passing thought.

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13284 on: June 04, 2021, 01:48:05 AM »
Tis difficult isn't it.  I have long believed that Cristovao and Amaral had something to do with this.  Hence their reasons for being so vociferous against The McCanns.

Am I allowed to say this in my opinion?

But I wouldn't half like to see their phone movements on that night.

So let's get down and dirty on these two.

There has to be some reason for the vindictiveness both have shown against Madeleine's parents despite both of them making a lot of money from Madeleine's disappearance.
I think Christovao was the cleverer of the two when it came to that with his series on missing children.
Amaral in particular made a real career and living from Madeleine's case which I find extraordinary and until very recently was the man when comment was looked for
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Online Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13285 on: June 04, 2021, 01:50:33 AM »

I am not actually going to get an answer, am I?

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13286 on: June 04, 2021, 01:53:11 AM »
Do you think that Amaral or Cristavoa could have been involved in this?

Just a passing thought.

Well they haven't 'proved their innocence' nor do they have a certificate of clearance.  So I think they must be in the same boat as anyone else who was active at the time and involved in Madeleine's case.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Heriberto Janosch

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13287 on: June 04, 2021, 01:57:27 AM »
Do you think that Amaral or Cristavoa could have been involved in this?

Just a passing thought.

GA involved in MM crime? I do not think so. But it is strange that it occured just the day before GA had to be in the court for the Cipriano case ... But mere coincidence, imo.


Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13288 on: June 04, 2021, 02:08:25 AM »
GA involved in MM crime? I do not think so. But it is strange that it occured just the day before GA had to be in the court for the Cipriano case ... But mere coincidence, imo.

I don't think Amaral was equipped to deal with the complexities of a missing child case and I think he was in desperation to have Madeleine's case concluded 'successfully' which he thought would deflect from his forthcoming perjury trial resulting from the torture of Leonor Cipriano.

I think he was the worst possible person to have been appointed as co-ordinator of Madeleine's case ~ he just didn't have the skills base.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Online Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13289 on: June 04, 2021, 02:31:01 AM »
Well they haven't 'proved their innocence' nor do they have a certificate of clearance.  So I think they must be in the same boat as anyone else who was active at the time and involved in Madeleine's case.

Oh do come on.  Neither Amaral or Cristovao have been Cleared.  So they could both be in the frame.  And both of them know a bit too much for my liking.

Look to the to two people who have done the most to incriminate The McCanns.

I am beginning to understand how Sadie feels.  Let us see for how long this comment will survive.  IMO.