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Offline John

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13350 on: June 04, 2021, 02:20:24 PM »
I don't think anyone can compel the Germans to share the information that they have. I think Wolters has something but as it's not sufficient to lay charges it isn't important to know what it is. Did OG ever reveal the evidence which led them to pursue the ex OC driver and his associates?

He can't have anything of any significance otherwise it would have been shared with the missing child's parents.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13351 on: June 04, 2021, 02:23:12 PM »
It doesn't matter whether I (or you) think it's important, it's up to the Germans. They appear to have forged ahead for a year without sharing what they have so I have no reason to believe they would be more open in the future.

Why do you think they should share when what should have been confidential information was splattered all over the internet by Amaral ~ who should have known nothing at all.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13352 on: June 04, 2021, 02:25:04 PM »
4 years its seems, blooming  german concrete isn't very good.



Police have been investigating the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann case for four years, Sky News has learned.

https://news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccann-police-have-been-investigating-prime-suspect-in-case-for-four-years-12324624

I'm not sure there's anything new in that. My understanding is that there was a tip-off when the first German equivalent of Crimewatchers was first aired, but which evidently needed to be checked out as did the others.

One detail stands out for me is registering the Jag in a pal's name. Unless he's had several Jags, he got stopped by the traffic cops for not having changed his plates (from German to PT ones)... and that was in the year that Joana disappeared not far from her village. For the moment, I still find that a bit of a mystery, although there could be a logical explanation.

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13353 on: June 04, 2021, 02:25:26 PM »
He can't have anything of any significance otherwise it would have been shared with the missing child's parents.

And have Mitchell leak to the papers in the guise of a 'family pal' or even as an 'anonymous source'??
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13354 on: June 04, 2021, 02:26:41 PM »
It's very simple, had Madeleine not disappeared his career would have continued.

That is debateable, John, considering that he may very well have jumped before he was pushed before the Cipriano verdict was returned, enabling the retention of a good whack of his pension as a result.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Carana

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13355 on: June 04, 2021, 02:28:12 PM »
It's very simple, had Madeleine not disappeared his career would have continued.

Would it?

Offline Carana

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13356 on: June 04, 2021, 02:36:09 PM »
The GA book only contains a very small part of the PJ files first 5 months.

The process takes a lot longer than a few weeks from writing to the printed version available for distribution.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13357 on: June 04, 2021, 02:40:27 PM »
He can't have anything of any significance otherwise it would have been shared with the missing child's parents.

He has said exactly why he hasnt shared it with the parents.
I cannot see him making such s bold statement that Maddie is dead based on nothing

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13358 on: June 04, 2021, 02:42:10 PM »
He can't have anything of any significance otherwise it would have been shared with the missing child's parents.

I doubt if he can prove that Madeleine was murdered. If he can and didn't tell her parents that's unforgivable imo.
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Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13359 on: June 04, 2021, 02:46:09 PM »
I doubt if he can prove that Madeleine was murdered. If he can and didn't tell her parents that's unforgivable imo.

Murder is very specific.
Can he even state with certainty that she is dead ? If he can, the parents should have been informed of that fact.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Carana

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13360 on: June 04, 2021, 02:46:46 PM »
The complete absence of logic in thinking that because a suspect does not have previous convictions for murder it discounts him from being a murder suspect is quite staggering imo, particularly coming from an ex policeman.

Quite some time ago, I watched a documentary on YouTube of a UK profiler (I don't think it was Canter, but an equally well-known one). All I really remember about it was that anyone - from a petty theft upwards - should be checked and ruled in or out as crimes can sometimes escalate in nature, depending on the psychological profile of a person of interest.

NB: His offending history would seem to fit the bill as a red flag according to that approach, even though it could turn out to be a false one.
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Offline Carana

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13361 on: June 04, 2021, 03:02:53 PM »
I doubt if he can prove that Madeleine was murdered. If he can and didn't tell her parents that's unforgivable imo.

TBH, I found it somewhat insenstive at the time that the family might have only learned about developments via the media. OTH, at some point early on, there was a clarification that a letter had been sent (via the police?) to the UK police, who were then to inform the family.  Was there a mix-up of communication at some point?

I find it possible that the family have since been informed of more details, perhaps unofficially. However, I also find it possible that they have been informed of the bare minimum as other, related, investigations may still be ongoing and a leak / hack from anyone could create chaos.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13362 on: June 04, 2021, 03:08:39 PM »
I doubt if he can prove that Madeleine was murdered. If he can and didn't tell her parents that's unforgivable imo.
I think he can prove it...if he couldnt then it would be unforgivable. Its amazing how you have never referred to what amaral has done as being unforgivable
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13363 on: June 04, 2021, 03:11:42 PM »
I doubt if he can prove that Madeleine was murdered. If he can and didn't tell her parents that's unforgivable imo.

I think if he can the parents will be eternally grateful to him for providing closure

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13364 on: June 04, 2021, 03:26:04 PM »
TBH, I found it somewhat insenstive at the time that the family might have only learned about developments via the media. OTH, at some point early on, there was a clarification that a letter had been sent (via the police?) to the UK police, who were then to inform the family.  Was there a mix-up of communication at some point?

I find it possible that the family have since been informed of more details, perhaps unofficially. However, I also find it possible that they have been informed of the bare minimum as other, related, investigations may still be ongoing and a leak / hack from anyone could create chaos.

That would be by far the better approach - IMO
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future