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Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13440 on: June 05, 2021, 01:44:16 PM »
No he doesnt... I have yet to see a contradiction. The mistake you are making is taking things from nrwspapers which may not be accurate and out if context.

I rely on what I have seen/heard him say live on camera

That's a prosecutor's job though D....to convince you and believe them when they speak.

They are trained to do that as part of there job.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13441 on: June 05, 2021, 01:51:35 PM »
That's a prosecutor's job though D....to convince you and believe them when they speak.

They are trained to do that as part of there job.

I consider myself very good at evaluating evidence... Its one of the things Ive been trained to do. Thats why I could see straight through amaral and his ridiculous claims.

Listening to Wolters he comes over a being very professional... Unlike amaral who drank wine and beer every lunchtime it seems

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13442 on: June 05, 2021, 01:57:39 PM »
I consider myself very good at evaluating evidence... Its one of the things Ive been trained to do. Thats why I could see straight through amaral and his ridiculous claims.

Listening to Wolters he comes over a being very professional... Unlike amaral who drank wine and beer every lunchtime it seems

We are not on about G,A, though are we. this is not a G.A. thread.

Not very professional neither to keep dragging him up.

Seems your best defence for wolt is to attack G.A.

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13443 on: June 05, 2021, 02:19:22 PM »
We are not on about G,A, though are we. this is not a G.A. thread.

Not very professional neither to keep dragging him up.

Seems your best defence for wolt is to attack G.A.

Distraction very much the name of the game on here  8(0(*
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13444 on: June 05, 2021, 02:30:19 PM »
We are not on about G,A, though are we. this is not a G.A. thread.

Not very professional neither to keep dragging him up.

Seems your best defence for wolt is to attack G.A.

Not at all...its about judgement...most sceptics think GA is a competent policeman and Wolt is some kind of clown.

anyone who thinks GA is  a competent policeman is not very good at assessing evidence imo.

GA has said CB is  a patsy...therefore he is very relevant to this thread...I think the idea that CB is  a patsy is total bananas...I think any idea that Wolters is some kind of fool is also bananas

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13445 on: June 05, 2021, 02:56:16 PM »
Do you reslly think I would make it up.. Lol.
Im sure you are aware of it

If you can invent a video you can invent a photo and comments allegedly made by the police. Just supply your evidence.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13446 on: June 05, 2021, 03:02:07 PM »
If you can invent a video you can invent a photo and comments allegedly made by the police. Just supply your evidence.

As I said do you really think i would make it up...

What happened to Rui Pedro?
It was uncovered that Pedro was one of the child victims of the Wonderland ring, which, at the time, was considered the biggest cyber pedo-criminal network.

In September 1998, over 1,000 police and child protection officers in 13 countries simultaneously raided 105 Wonderland members.

After the raids, police uncovered over 750,000 different images of paedophilia.

From the seized CD-Roms, 16 portraits of anonymous children were extracted and kept in files in Geneva, Switzerland.

Rui Pedro’s mother visited Geneva to access the files and her son was identified.

Footage of Rui's mother accessing the files features in the Netflix documentary.

The Telegraph reported that it is feared Rui was murdered by his abductors following the abuse.


https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1101793/Rui-Pedro-Who-is-Rui-Pedro-What-happened-to-him-Madeleine-McCann-Netflix-documentary
« Last Edit: June 05, 2021, 03:05:31 PM by Davel »

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13447 on: June 05, 2021, 03:08:44 PM »
Wolters also said "in Germany it is 'normal' to assume a murder has taken place in similar cases". Until he reveals his evidence it's acceptable, imo, to consider that he is assuming.

I have already pointed out that I can find no evidence of a video being found of Rui Pedro Teixeira Mendonça. If you have such evidence please produce it.
Snip
In September of that same year, British police busts the paedophile ring Wonderland Club that operated mainly online and functioned like a database of thousands of pictures and videos. Between them are several pictures of Rui Pedro. British police feared that the little boy was killed after they abused him. You can see a couple of pictures at the beginning of this video. They are two pictures of his face. To this day, this remains the only physical evidence of the whereabouts of Rui Pedro. For some reason, this is not a very famous part of his story. I actually only found out about it when I was doing my research. Even though Wikipedia, several articles from other countries, our own national news and his own mother confirmed it was him, as well as Interpol and the British police, the Portuguese police dismissed this piece of evidence. In 2006, a new investigation team was formed and all these clues were looked at. They concluded that this particular clue did not lead anywhere relevant, and therefore Afonso Dias was not only the last person seeing him alive, but he was also responsible for Rui Pedro’s disappearance. This is really strange to me. Interpol itself has specialists for these cases and they made a positive identification. 16 children were positively identified in those pictures, and Rui Pedro was one of them. I must add that in 2002, a huge case broke out in Portugal where a governmental institution that was supposed to help kids, several people in the government and a few celebrities were involved in a paedophile ring for a few years at that time. There was also a confirmation that at least one paedophile from Wonderland Club, “Irish Dave”, was living in Algarve at the time.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/9iiawr/on_the_4th_of_march_1998_11yearold_rui_pedro_from/?utm_source=BD&utm_medium=Search&utm_name=Bing&utm_content=PSR1

Are you unfamiliar with the technique of lifting a frame from a video to make a still photograph.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13448 on: June 05, 2021, 03:11:10 PM »
If you can invent a video you can invent a photo and comments allegedly made by the police. Just supply your evidence.

As there are reports of a video could you retract your statement that I invented it

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13449 on: June 05, 2021, 03:51:38 PM »
As there are reports of a video could you retract your statement that I invented it
I wouldn't hold your breath if I were you....
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13450 on: June 05, 2021, 03:52:53 PM »
I think here is all the important things HCW said:

1. ... based on the knowledge gathered for years, they could have voiced their suspicion that a German had brought Maddie into his power and killed.

2. "We have knowledge and evidence that does not allow any other conclusion than that Maddie is actually dead," the prosecutor repeated.

3. ... a cell phone number that could be assigned to the suspect and that had been located in the cell phone to which the hotel complex from which Maddie disappeared belongs.

Do you have any other important statement by HCW?
What do you interpret the following claim by HCW to mean Heri?

2. "We have knowledge and evidence that does not allow any other conclusion than that Maddie is actually dead," the prosecutor repeated.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13451 on: June 05, 2021, 04:07:01 PM »
Snip
In September of that same year, British police busts the paedophile ring Wonderland Club that operated mainly online and functioned like a database of thousands of pictures and videos. Between them are several pictures of Rui Pedro. British police feared that the little boy was killed after they abused him. You can see a couple of pictures at the beginning of this video. They are two pictures of his face. To this day, this remains the only physical evidence of the whereabouts of Rui Pedro. For some reason, this is not a very famous part of his story. I actually only found out about it when I was doing my research. Even though Wikipedia, several articles from other countries, our own national news and his own mother confirmed it was him, as well as Interpol and the British police, the Portuguese police dismissed this piece of evidence. In 2006, a new investigation team was formed and all these clues were looked at. They concluded that this particular clue did not lead anywhere relevant, and therefore Afonso Dias was not only the last person seeing him alive, but he was also responsible for Rui Pedro’s disappearance. This is really strange to me. Interpol itself has specialists for these cases and they made a positive identification. 16 children were positively identified in those pictures, and Rui Pedro was one of them. I must add that in 2002, a huge case broke out in Portugal where a governmental institution that was supposed to help kids, several people in the government and a few celebrities were involved in a paedophile ring for a few years at that time. There was also a confirmation that at least one paedophile from Wonderland Club, “Irish Dave”, was living in Algarve at the time.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/9iiawr/on_the_4th_of_march_1998_11yearold_rui_pedro_from/?utm_source=BD&utm_medium=Search&utm_name=Bing&utm_content=PSR1

Are you unfamiliar with the technique of lifting a frame from a video to make a still photograph.

So was there a video? I see nothing confirming that.
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Offline Heriberto Janosch

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13452 on: June 05, 2021, 04:14:25 PM »
What do you interpret the following claim by HCW to mean Heri?

2. "We have knowledge and evidence that does not allow any other conclusion than that Maddie is actually dead," the prosecutor repeated.

HCW said he had evidence ... Well, lets see what kind of evidence he has. Just waiting.


Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13453 on: June 05, 2021, 04:18:43 PM »
HCW said he had evidence ... Well, lets see what kind of evidence he has. Just waiting.
That's been my position all along.  Happy to wait and not make claims either way.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #13454 on: June 05, 2021, 04:19:24 PM »
So was there a video? I see nothing confirming that.
Did you not read the article then?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".