New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[G-Unit]

You don't know much about Glaswegians either.

Knowing a lot about Glaswegians isn't necessary when it comes to discovering the origins and meanings of words.

[Eleanor]

Knowing a lot about Glaswegians isn't necessary when it comes to discovering the origins and meanings of words.

Nuances are often more important.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Jemmied is a British English word meaning 'to prise (something) open with a jemmy'. A jemmy is 'a short steel crowbar used, esp by burglars, for forcing doors and windows'

And this is vital importance because....?

[Mr Gray]

Jemmied is a British English word meaning 'to prise (something) open with a jemmy'. A jemmy is 'a short steel crowbar used, esp by burglars, for forcing doors and windows'

Do you think detectives use a dictionary to check the precise meaning of words or do you think they have enough sense to realise words have a range of meanings deoendant on the context

[Vertigo Swirl]

Do you think detectives use a dictionary to check the precise meaning of words or do you think they have enough sense to realise words have a range of meanings deoendant on the context

I reckon Gerry should have been arrested for phoning the folks back home and saying  the shutter was jemmied.  It's criminal behaviour pure and simple.

[G-Unit]

Nuances are often more important.

The 'nuance' picked up and repeated by four people contacted during the night 3/4 May 2007 was that someone had entered 5A after breaking the shutters.

[Mr Gray]

The 'nuance' picked up and repeated by four people contacted during the night 3/4 May 2007 was that someone had entered 5A after breaking the shutters.

I think its totally possible that someone entered the apt by raising the shutters from the outside.. As I recall from the MS podcasts amaral thougt the shutters could not be opened from the outside... So quite reasonable to think they had been forced or jemmied..

This is the sort of so-called evidence that hasled people to hate the McCanns.. Absolutely pathetic really

[Vertigo Swirl]

The 'nuance' picked up and repeated by four people contacted during the night 3/4 May 2007 was that someone had entered 5A after breaking the shutters.

Were the shutters designed to be opened from the outside?

[jassi]

The 'nuance' picked up and repeated by four people contacted during the night 3/4 May 2007 was that someone had entered 5A after breaking the shutters.

The first false trail - IMO

[Vertigo Swirl]

 

The first false trail - IMO

  You lot really crack me up.  Still going on about the jemmied shutters as if it was still 2007.

[G-Unit]

I think its totally possible that someone entered the apt by raising the shutters from the outside.. As I recall from the MS podcasts amaral thougt the shutters could not be opened from the outside... So quite reasonable to think they had been forced or jemmied..

This is the sort of so-called evidence that hasled people to hate the McCanns.. Absolutely pathetic really

Shortly after 10pm, before any phone calls were made, Gerry McCann discovered that the shutters a) were not damaged and b) could be raised from outside.

In the children’s room, Gerry lowered the shutter at the open window. Rushing outside, he made the sickening discovery that it could be raised from this side, too, not just from inside as we’d thought.
[madeleine page 81]

[Mr Gray]

Shortly after 10pm, before any phone calls were made, Gerry McCann discovered that the shutters a) were not damaged and b) could be raised from outside.

In the children’s room, Gerry lowered the shutter at the open window. Rushing outside, he made the sickening discovery that it could be raised from this side, too, not just from inside as we’d thought.
[madeleine page 81]

Pathetic... You are convinved this is evidence thst supports their involvements. Its laughable

[Vertigo Swirl]

The first false trail - IMO

Surely the first false trail was “they’ve taken her”, no?  Or perhaps the first false trail was when they went to dinner at 8.30 pm pretending everything in the garden was a-ok?  Or maybe it was when they ckecked the fake Madeleine into the kids club earlier that day, eh? 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Pathetic... You are convinved this is evidence thst supports their involvements. Its laughable

It’s a very well documented attribute of conspiracy theorists that they latch on to insignificant minutiae like this and build on it to try and make their point, refusing to see the bigger picture but preferring to focus on unimportant details like this.  I’ve seen it from Holocaust deniers and Young Earth Creationists and Anti Vaxxers  too and it’s utterly transparent and embarrassingly laughable IMO.

[faithlilly]

Jemmied is a Glaswegian word for broken into and not necessarily with a jemmy.  Presuming that you know what a jemmy is.

Perhaps you all didn't know that.

Not correct. Jemmied implies an instrument…a ‘jemmy’ or crowbar was used.