New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[The General]

Grime doesn't advocate armchair detectives being let loose on the internet to discuss the expertise of the dogs, and their training/alerts. That's in his white paper too.

Exactly, but Davel takes exception to being called armchair.

[G-Unit]

" ... the so called evidence of abduction imo." to which you refer constantly in one shape or form is nothing more or less than a continuation of the slurs you believe and promulgate about Kate and Gerry McCann.

There is not a shred of evidence supporting your beliefs.

But there is evidence and apparently plenty of it supporting the BKA constituting Brueckner as the prime subject in Madeleine's disappearance.

That is the guy who is the subject of this thread.  How nice it would be for you to keep on topic and incidentally how appropriate it would be instead of pursuing what is an obvious fixation for you; I don't think I will be alone in finding your posts exceedingly tedious; almost as tedious as I find having to remind you to post on topic (of which you seldom if ever take any heed).

Your eyes seem to home in on posts of mine which you deem to be off topic, but either fail to notice or prefer not to comment on other's off topic posts. Perhaps we should allow NO off topic posts whatsoever? Should we start with those about Grime's dogs; they seem to appear on every thread?

[Mr Gray]

Grime doesn't advocate armchair detectives being let loose on the internet to discuss the expertise of the dogs, and their training/alerts. That's in his white paper too.

Any competent professional has no problem with criticism

[misty]

Any competent professional has no problem with criticism

I agree. It was a very odd comment for Grime to include in a white paper and conveyed personal resentment imo.

[The General]

Any competent professional has no problem with criticism

Including The Bard himself? "A critic, nay, a night-watch constable; A domineering pedant o'er the boy."

I'd suggest the opposite is true.

[Brietta]

Your eyes seem to home in on posts of mine which you deem to be off topic, but either fail to notice or prefer not to comment on other's off topic posts. Perhaps we should allow NO off topic posts whatsoever? Should we start with those about Grime's dogs; they seem to appear on every thread?

Please use the appropriate thread to raise the issues you are having - more use of which would prevent such matters arising on the public threads.

[G-Unit]

Please use the appropriate thread to raise the issues you are having - more use of which would prevent such matters arising on the public threads.

I don't have any issues, thank you, I was highlighting what I see as yours.

I think that suggesting that the BKA has plenty of evidence is a triumph of hope over fact. Operation Grange aren't accepting the word of the Germans it seems. Until they see definitive evidence that Brueckner abducted and killed Madeleine they are still investigating a missing person case. They are said to be stopping soon too, although they haven't said why.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I don't have any issues, thank you, I was highlighting what I see as yours.

I think that suggesting that the BKA has plenty of evidence is a triumph of hope over fact. Operation Grange aren't accepting the word of the Germans it seems. Until they see definitive evidence that Brueckner abducted and killed Madeleine they are still investigating a missing person case. They are said to be stopping soon too, although they haven't said why.

Lots of speculation in that post IMO.

[Brietta]

I don't have any issues, thank you, I was highlighting what I see as yours.

I think that suggesting that the BKA has plenty of evidence is a triumph of hope over fact. Operation Grange aren't accepting the word of the Germans it seems. Until they see definitive evidence that Brueckner abducted and killed Madeleine they are still investigating a missing person case. They are said to be stopping soon too, although they haven't said why.

Nor have they said they are stopping and you are placing a great deal of faith and hope in unattributed tabloid intimation that they are.

The point is that if Operation Grange do not require further funding it means there are no further investigative opportunities or suspects to be followed.

Brueckner is not only the BKA prime suspect;  SY have been investigating him for at least as long and he is their prime suspect too.

Were I you I would cast my eye in the direction that SY have gone as far as they can go and consider the case over all bar the shouting and for you to hope that there is sufficient evidence to bring Madeleine's case to trial and a definitive closure.

After all isn't that what sceptics are  allegedly all about ~ JUSTICE for MADELEINE ~ real justice which doesn't come with a sceptic caveat.

[G-Unit]

Nor have they said they are stopping and you are placing a great deal of faith and hope in unattributed tabloid intimation that they are.

The point is that if Operation Grange do not require further funding it means there are no further investigative opportunities or suspects to be followed.

Brueckner is not only the BKA prime suspect;  SY have been investigating him for at least as long and he is their prime suspect too.

Were I you I would cast my eye in the direction that SY have gone as far as they can go and consider the case over all bar the shouting and for you to hope that there is sufficient evidence to bring Madeleine's case to trial and a definitive closure.

After all isn't that what sceptics are  allegedly all about ~ JUSTICE for MADELEINE ~ real justice which doesn't come with a sceptic caveat.

My actual post was that OG WERE SAID to be stopping. I'll believe it when they announce it, just as I'll believe the Germans have the evidence they say they have when they put their suspect on trial.

I've never said  JUSTICE for MADELEINE, never said that it was my aim, or hinted that that's what I'm all about. If I'm a sceptic then those allegations don't apply to me. If there's a group pf people out there called The Sceptics who share theories and aims I'm not one of them.

[Vertigo Swirl]

My actual post was that OG WERE SAID to be stopping. I'll believe it when they announce it, just as I'll believe the Germans have the evidence they say they have when they put their suspect on trial.

I've never said  JUSTICE for MADELEINE, never said that it was my aim, or hinted that that's what I'm all about. If I'm a sceptic then those allegations don't apply to me. If there's a group pf people out there called The Sceptics who share theories and aims I'm not one of them.

What has your many years of diligent study and research been all in aid of then?

[G-Unit]

What has your many years of diligent study and research been all in aid of then?

Satisfying my curiosity, aroused by a chance remark around eight years ago.

[Eleanor]

Satisfying my curiosity, aroused by a chance remark around eight years ago.

So not from the beginning then?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Satisfying my curiosity, aroused by a chance remark around eight years ago.

And after 8 years is your curiosity any closer to being satisfied?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Did you satisfy your curiosity about the following G-Unit? 

Hi,

I'm just an ordinary (older) woman from the Midlands (UK). I recently started being interested in the Madeleine Mccann case and I'm on here to share thoughts about that hopefully 

To begin, what do people think about the delivery of two new PAYG mobile phones to David Payne on the 4th May 2007? http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

I thought his reasons for wanting them seemed unconvincing and wondered if they were given to them so someone could contact them without being detected? Maybe Gerry Mccann was using one in Lagos on 7th May when Carolyn Kish heard him asking someone not to hurt Madeleine? http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CAROLYN-KISH.htm

Certainly the investigation needed to take account of these phones when doing their phone investigations

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Seems a strange “entry level” question for someone new to the case.