New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Mr Gray]

The Germans have made no legal moves against Brueckner, they haven't even questioned him. An EAW to Italy will have no effect as the Italians can only arrest someone who's in Italy.

You're missing the point.  Cbs extradition from 🇮🇹did not cover the rape case.. I'll let you work the rest out if you can

[misty]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Arrest_Warrant
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Specialty
A state wishing to prosecute a surrendered person for offences committed before his or her surrender, or extradite a surrendered person to a third state, must, subject to certain exception, obtain the permission of the executing judicial authority. Such a request is made in the same form as a European Arrest Warrant, and granted or refused using the same rules which determine whether surrender would be granted or refused.



Brueckner was surrendered by Italy.

[misty]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspects-alibi-backed-26781760

Christian Brueckner was made an arguido - a suspect - in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. Now, four witnesses have spoken to a Channel 5 documentary, backing his alibi


ByPatrick HillNews Reporter
19:30, 23 Apr 2022
An alibi from a paedophile accused of abducting Madeleine McCann has been backed by four people, a TV show claims.

This will pile fresh heartache on parents Kate and Gerry, who welcomed Portuguese police making Christian Brueckner an arguido, or suspect.

The declaration was seen as a sign police may be finally near charging Brueckner, 44, over three-year-old Madeleine’s disappearance in 2007 during a family holiday at Praia da Luz in the Algarve.

Four witnesses have spoken to a Channel 5 documentary about the case, which is hosted by ex-police detective Mark Williams-Thomas – who has been in lengthy contact with Brueckner via ­letter. Madeleine McCann: Investigating The Prime Suspect will air on May 3.

A Channel 5 insider said: “Christian Brueckner has provided a very detailed alibi for the days leading up to and after Madeleine’s disappearance.

“That has been checked out by our team and fully examined. We’ve spoken to four people who have gone on the record to independently, in different ways, support his alibi. They have got nothing to benefit from supporting him and, in fact, a couple of those people really don’t like him but they have still backed his account.”

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This is going to get very messy imo.

[jassi]

I presume that these 4 witnesses have made or will make sworn statements to that effect.

Would this explain why Wolters is now talking about dealing with the less serious cases first ?

[misty]

I presume that these 4 witnesses have made or will make sworn statements to that effect.

Would this explain why Wolters is now talking about dealing with the less serious cases first ?

Tonight I again feel like the Prophet of Doom.
I can foresee Portugal quickly charging Brueckner with abduction/murder of Madeleine.
He will be tried In Absentia, surrendering the right to be tried in Portugal with a legal team appointed to defend him.
He will be cleared unless Germany surrender their concrete evidence to Portuguese Prosecutors.
 If he's cleared, I don't think Germany will be able to charge him for the same crime(s) because of the terms of the EAW.

Somebody - anybody - please explain how I could be wrong.

[barrier]

I wonder if any of the 4 are Portuguese, if they are known to MWT they are known to the BKA and Pj, if at least one is Portuguese does declaring CB an arguido allow the PJ to question for the BKA via ILOR as per Grange at one time.

[barrier]

Tonight I again feel like the Prophet of Doom.
I can foresee Portugal quickly charging Brueckner with abduction/murder of Madeleine.
He will be tried In Absentia, surrendering the right to be tried in Portugal with a legal team appointed to defend him.
He will be cleared unless Germany surrender their concrete evidence to Portuguese Prosecutors.
 If he's cleared, I don't think Germany will be able to charge him for the same crime(s) because of the terms of the EAW.

Somebody - anybody - please explain how I could be wrong.

You could be right, I was shot down in flames when I said the PJ played Grange back in 2014, looks similar now.

What ever the PJ have ,CB is entitled to know through his legal team, thats another point who appoints and pays a legal team in Portugal.

[jassi]

Tonight I again feel like the Prophet of Doom.
I can foresee Portugal quickly charging Brueckner with abduction/murder of Madeleine.
He will be tried In Absentia, surrendering the right to be tried in Portugal with a legal team appointed to defend him.
He will be cleared unless Germany surrender their concrete evidence to Portuguese Prosecutors.
 If he's cleared, I don't think Germany will be able to charge him for the same crime(s) because of the terms of the EAW.

Somebody - anybody - please explain how I could be wrong.

Could he be tried in absentia if he was physically restrained from leaving Germany'
It's usually used when a defendant refuses to place themselves before the court.

[jassi]

If his alibi stands up. that can only be for the good as it would mean he didn't do it and I'm sure none of us would want a miscarriage of justice.

[G-Unit]

The longer this goes on the messier it gets. The Germans lost control once they went public imo. Maybe the Portuguese can sort it all out.

[Mr Gray]

Tonight I again feel like the Prophet of Doom.
I can foresee Portugal quickly charging Brueckner with abduction/murder of Madeleine.
He will be tried In Absentia, surrendering the right to be tried in Portugal with a legal team appointed to defend him.
He will be cleared unless Germany surrender their concrete evidence to Portuguese Prosecutors.
 If he's cleared, I don't think Germany will be able to charge him for the same crime(s) because of the terms of the EAW.

Somebody - anybody - please explain how I could be wrong.

I understand your thoughts and have considered the same situation. The weak part is do the Portuguese have enough evidence to charge and prosecute CB without the German input.  What could the Portuguese have?

[jassi]

Tonight I again feel like the Prophet of Doom.
I can foresee Portugal quickly charging Brueckner with abduction/murder of Madeleine.
He will be tried In Absentia, surrendering the right to be tried in Portugal with a legal team appointed to defend him.
He will be cleared unless Germany surrender their concrete evidence to Portuguese Prosecutors.
 If he's cleared, I don't think Germany will be able to charge him for the same crime(s) because of the terms of the EAW.

Somebody - anybody - please explain how I could be wrong.

Without the German evidence I doubt it could even come to trial.

[Mr Gray]

The longer this goes on the messier it gets. The Germans lost control once they went public imo. Maybe the Portuguese can sort it all out.

Lol.. It's very clever of Wolters not to share his evidence.  The Portuguese imo have nothing that could reach the threshold of putting CB in front of a court.. You would 100% have to agree with that

[Mr Gray]

Without the German evidence I doubt it could even come to trial.

Absolutely

[barrier]

The longer this goes on the messier it gets. The Germans lost control once they went public imo. Maybe the Portuguese can sort it all out.

There is an awful lot of chaff flying around, there must be wheat in there somewhere.