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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16275 on: May 30, 2022, 06:53:12 PM »

I don't know why OG haven't told them that they are wrong, but it could be that they are still tying it all up and it is sensitive.   I am inclined to think that Madeleines disappearance, whilst ordered by one man, Mr Big, was linked to a massive global trafficking set up in drugs and slaves.   Probably mainly modern sexual slavery including pa-dop-llia.
Not only this but blackmail and extortion money.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10239367/Scotland-Yard-open-thinking-Madeleine-McCann-Germans-think-dead.html


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Scotland Yard's Madeleine McCann team has 'more open thinking' and is still treating her disappearance as a missing person's investigation – despite German prosecutors insisting she is dead.

Among other theories, the bespoke London unit of officers codenamed Operation Grange is still working on a possibility she may be alive.
-/snip-




It goes a wee bit further on this lower down the article, but I haven't the energy.  Soz.

This, of course was about Christmas and the UK must have been under terrible pressure financially.   The funding stopped.  Just hope they have enough funds left to finish their investigation into a living Madeleine.

So who is it claiming SY are more open thinking... Sounds absolute rubbish to me.
I'm confident from what he has said.... He's been consistent and never contradicted himself.... Wolters has proof Maddie is dead

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16276 on: May 30, 2022, 07:03:40 PM »
Quite simple.. Try to see the post in context.  If SY have the evidence Sadie claims that Maddiebis alive then CB is innocent

I don't think Sadie claims there's proof that Madeleine is alive, just 'pointers'. In fact I don't think Sadie has any evidence proving that Madeleine had a special bloodline or that Mr Big exists. Nor has she any evidence of a watcher, a lifter, a get-a-way car or any other of her theories. Apologies, Sadie, but it's all a step too far for me.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16277 on: May 30, 2022, 07:10:32 PM »
I don't think Sadie claims there's proof that Madeleine is alive, just 'pointers'. In fact I don't think Sadie has any evidence proving that Madeleine had a special bloodline or that Mr Big exists. Nor has she any evidence of a watcher, a lifter, a get-a-way car or any other of her theories. Apologies, Sadie, but it's all a step too far for me.

Well, I trust Sadie more than Wolters, he hasn't even seen what evidence she has.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16278 on: May 30, 2022, 07:12:07 PM »
I don't think Sadie claims there's proof that Madeleine is alive, just 'pointers'. In fact I don't think Sadie has any evidence proving that Madeleine had a special bloodline or that Mr Big exists. Nor has she any evidence of a watcher, a lifter, a get-a-way car or any other of her theories. Apologies, Sadie, but it's all a step too far for me.

If you read the posts properly you would see I've not mentioned proof

Offline sadie

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16279 on: May 31, 2022, 01:21:04 AM »
I don't think Sadie claims there's proof that Madeleine is alive, just 'pointers'. In fact I don't think Sadie has any evidence proving that Madeleine had a special bloodline or that Mr Big exists. Nor has she any evidence of a watcher, a lifter, a get-a-way car or any other of her theories. Apologies, Sadie, but it's all a step too far for me.

You are correct on the emboldened part, Gunit. 

Apart from needing to know for myself, my main aim was to logically prove the possibility of an abduction, which the sceptics were saying was impossible.  With a little help from you, I think I achieved that quite nicely.  Thank you for your help, Gunit. 

[color=]Editted to add:  And there were pointers, Gunit. 
Fag ends,
black limousine approaching Blocks 5 and 6 at the time Gerry and Kate appeared when it hastily did a turn around near Baptistas supermarket . 
Then the most important of all, The Jane Tanner Sighting.


As for proving that Madeleine is alive, she was in 2012.   The proof was on a video that SY seem to think is Madeleine too.   There were a multitude of ancilliary pointers That took me to the correct place to search and afterwards confirmed the reality of the situation.

This video evidence is less than 5% of the total pointers, proofs, facts etc That Madeleine definitely lived at least until 2012 .    Madeleine was abducted for a purpose, which appears to be because of her special bloodline, which is pure ~ and i can't see that she would have been killed.   

Had she or anyone else been killed, the jail sentence would have suddenly, because of murder, become very long.   I don't think that she was murdered .   I believe she still lives.


Psychic, Matt James also thinks she still lives and I know that he is rather special.   He identified the Mediterranean island where Madeleine was living and dancing on the video.   I had already found it by logical means when I saw his Tarot cards, but it was good to receive confirmation from his cards.   

I think this was the reason that SY contacted Matt, but I don't know that.


I never believed in psychics, but Matt and an ameteur and shy lady psychic in South Wales changed my mind.   Both revealed remarkable things.



And now, I will leave it at that


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Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16280 on: May 31, 2022, 06:25:32 AM »
You are correct on the emboldened part, Gunit. 

Apart from needing to know for myself, my main aim was to logically prove the possibility of an abduction, which the sceptics were saying was impossible.  With a little help from you, I think I achieved that quite nicely.  Thank you for your help, Gunit.

As for proving that Madeleine is alive, she was in 2012.   The proof was on a video that SY seem to think is Madeleine too.   There were a multitude of ancilliary pointers That took me to the correct place to search and afterwards confirmed the reality of the situation.

This video evidence is less than 5% of the total pointers, proofs, facts etc That Madeleine definitely lived at least until 2012 .    Madeleine was abducted for a purpose, which appears to be because of her special bloodline, which is pure ~ and i can't see that she would have been killed.   

Had she or anyone else been killed, the jail sentence would have suddenly, because of murder, become very long.   I don't think that she was murdered .   I believe she still lives.


Psychic, Matt James also thinks she still lives and I know that he is rather special.   He identified the Mediterranean island where Madeleine was living and dancing on the video.   I had already found it by logical means when I saw his Tarot cards, but it was good to receive confirmation from his cards.   

I think this was the reason that SY contacted Matt, but I don't know that.


I never believed in psychics, but Matt and an ameteur and shy lady psychic in South Wales changed my mind.   Both revealed remarkable things.



And now, I will leave it at that


Tin hat on (&^&

I'm afraid I don't think your theories or the contributions of psychics have anything of value to offer.
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Offline Myster

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16281 on: May 31, 2022, 07:23:48 AM »
No need to be afraid... Sadie inhabits an unfathomable universe at a very safe distance from the logical norm.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16282 on: May 31, 2022, 08:21:15 AM »
No need to be afraid... Sadie inhabits an unfathomable universe at a very safe distance from the logical norm.

Logical Norm, he sounds like a dull fella, bit of a nerd, not much fun to have at dinner parties, I'd probably keep a safe distance from him too.
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Offline sadie

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16283 on: May 31, 2022, 11:48:08 AM »
I'm afraid I don't think your theories or the contributions of psychics have anything of value to offer.

That's fine.  I didn't expect anything from you tbh.

Seems you have nothing to give apart from snide remarks at The Mccanns and supportive members on here.

Oh and a good deal of disinformation!   You are very good at that

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16284 on: May 31, 2022, 11:53:22 AM »
That's fine.  I didn't expect anything from you tbh.

Seems you have nothing to give apart from snide remarks at The Mccanns and supportive members on here.

Oh and a good deal of disinformation!   You are very good at that

I think you accusing others of spreading disinformation is really amusing.
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Offline sadie

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16285 on: May 31, 2022, 12:30:08 PM »
No need to be afraid... Sadie inhabits an unfathomable universe at a very safe distance from the logical norm.

OHO .. OHO .. HO   (&^&

One thing about you, Myster, Harry is that you make me laugh.   You norty wizard!

Sadie takes the trouble to look very very carefully at things and sometimes she observes things that pass others by.



ATM there is a deliberate clouding of events which have been artificially presented and  because of everyones anxiety to grab at Brueckner as the culprit the clouding has become more and more dense.   Only Matt James and I seem to be able to see thru it.


I should reiterate that no way do I think Brueckner killed Madeleine.  Whilst I have witnessed awful things written against Bruckner and know he is capable of breaking/climbing in, there is still nothing that absolutely convinces me that he did the abduction.   However if the media is to be believed, I think it is possible that he did it for someone else, for money.   

I stand with Elli on this.  He is innocent until proven guilty ... and, imo, there is nothing conclusive that we know about.



Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16286 on: May 31, 2022, 12:37:06 PM »
OHO .. OHO .. HO   (&^&

One thing about you, Myster, Harry is that you make me laugh.   You norty wizard!

Sadie takes the trouble to look very very carefully at things and sometimes she observes things that pass others by.



ATM there is a deliberate clouding of events which have been artificially presented and  because of everyones anxiety to grab at Brueckner as the culprit the clouding has become more and more dense.   Only Matt James and I seem to be able to see thru it.


I should reiterate that no way do I think Brueckner killed Madeleine.  Whilst I have witnessed awful things written against Bruckner and know he is capable of breaking/climbing in, there is still nothing that absolutely convinces me that he did the abduction.   However if the media is to be believed, I think it is possible that he did it for someone else, for money.   

I stand with Elli on this.  He is innocent until proven guilty ... and, imo, there is nothing conclusive that we know about.
You are free to believe what you want but if you continually refer to others and not being open minded and unable to see the things you see then you are not being fair minded.

What would you think if Wolters concrete evidence was from three different psychics... All who agreed that Maddie was abducted and murdered.  Would you have more trust in him

Offline sadie

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16287 on: May 31, 2022, 01:04:02 PM »
You are free to believe what you want but if you continually refer to others and not being open minded and unable to see the things you see then you are not being fair minded.

What would you think if Wolters concrete evidence was from three different psychics... All who agreed that Maddie was abducted and murdered.  Would you have more trust in him

Certain people are very clever but very fixed minded.   I like Wolters but find him rather pedantic.  Even the way he dresses is very stiff and I think he would have a job opening his mind to other solutions.   There are others like him on both sides.

Many psychics are a con and absolutely useless, but I find that Matt James, Brian Ladd and the anonymous lady in South Wales to be generally pretty good.   They confirm things that I have already found, which is reassuring.   It seeems to me that they don't get everything right tho'

I think Wolters is sincere, but he is too rigid and unwilling to shift his position when new things appear.   I wonder if he is being taken up the garden path by somebody senior, maybe in the police force?


Mr Grey, I need pointers/evidence/ facts before I take on board what the psychics say.


I will say goodbye for now.   Need a good  6&%5%     ZZZZZZzzzzzzz......

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16288 on: May 31, 2022, 01:20:45 PM »
OHO .. OHO .. HO   (&^&

One thing about you, Myster, Harry is that you make me laugh.   You norty wizard!

Sadie takes the trouble to look very very carefully at things and sometimes she observes things that pass others by.



ATM there is a deliberate clouding of events which have been artificially presented and  because of everyones anxiety to grab at Brueckner as the culprit the clouding has become more and more dense.   Only Matt James and I seem to be able to see thru it.


I should reiterate that no way do I think Brueckner killed Madeleine.  Whilst I have witnessed awful things written against Bruckner and know he is capable of breaking/climbing in, there is still nothing that absolutely convinces me that he did the abduction.  However if the media is to be believed, I think it is possible that he did it for someone else, for money.   

I stand with Elli on this.  He is innocent until proven guilty ... and, imo, there is nothing conclusive that we know about.

The bolded bit , we are of an accord .
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Offline sadie

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #16289 on: May 31, 2022, 06:43:14 PM »
nocent until PROVEN guilty
The bolded bit , we are of an accord .

But my reason is because I truly believe Madeleine to still be alive.   

If I didn't believe that Madelene is still alive, I would have no idea.   
I cannot see any pointers to CB being a killer, but as so many on here have pointed out, he has committed a lot of different crimes and there always has to be a first time with murder.   But, imo, that is not enough.   Unless Wolters has solid evidence, I can't see a conviction on either Abduction or Murder tbh.   CB does have a burglaring ability well honed and is able to scale walls etc.  but even if proved he was nearby, that is not enough on its own as far as I can see.

 
Maybe Wolters has something solid up his sleeve?   Let's be patient, shall we?