New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[sadie]

Revealed exclusively to John Clarke no less.

I'm surprised this isn't headlining on the BBC already.

Well done Jon Clarke as well.   He seems a pretty good slueth / investigator.   He seems to gave his finger on the button and get things right, which is a bit unusual with lots of the media journalists.

I must keep an eye on The Olive Press News

[Anthro]

Well done Jon Clarke as well.   He seems a pretty good slueth / investigator.   He seems to gave his finger on the button and get things right, which is a bit unusual with lots of the media journalists.

I must keep an eye on The Olive Press News

I agree, Sadie. Seems Jon Clarke has established good rapport with Herr Wolters.

[barrier]

I agree, Sadie. Seems Jon Clarke has established good rapport with Herr Wolters.

Does Portugal have primacy though, status of an Arguido, CB is entitled to know what evidence is held against him.


The status of arguido (defendant) is granted when an inquiry has been opened or an investigation is led regarding a specific person, if there are grounds to suspect that such person has committed a criminal offence and when that person is heard by a judicial authority – Public Prosecutor or Examining Judge – or a criminal police body, or where a coercive or patrimonial guarantee measure must be imposed or the suspect is detained. When acquiring the status of arguido, the person benefits from a set of procedural rights and duties covered by law.

Under this status, the person is no longer a simple participant in proceedings, differently from the suspect who does not have a specific status, but is indeed a subject in court, and has the right to: be assisted by a defence counsel; attend all procedural acts that directly affect him; be heard in court or before the examining judge whenever they render a decision that may personally affect him; be informed on charges against him prior to making statements before any authority; take part in the inquiry (and in the examination – instrução - before the Examining Court) by providing evidence and requesting any measures found necessary; request the opening of the examination stage (instrução) where the Public Prosecutor has formally charged him, in order to challenge this decision and to prevent it from being submitted to a criminal court

[jassi]

As far as I'm aware, we don't know which alleged crime he's been made an Arguido for.

[barrier]

As far as I'm aware, we don't know which alleged crime he's been made an Arguido for.

But if its in relation to Madeleine's disappearance then is he entitled to know what the BKA have.

[Eleanor]

But if its in relation to Madeleine's disappearance then is he entitled to know what the BKA have.

No he isn't.  He was made an Arguido in Portugal and not in Germany.

[barrier]

No he isn't.  He was made an Arguido in Portugal and not in Germany.

Who has primacy ? according to the Olive Press extradition from Italy is required for the rape and child abuse cases where SOL have expired in Portugal, how is that going to work in the Madeleine case, A British subject allegedly killed in Portugal by a German national held in a German prison whose last country where he was considered a free man was Italy where papers need to be served to get extradition, you couldn't make it up.

IMO its a legal minefield and that is why if the BKA are so certain CB is the one it's taking so long and the lesser charges (not for the victims) are being dealt with, it might take all the time CB is jailed for to sort it.

[G-Unit]

Who has primacy ? according to the Olive Press extradition from Italy is required for the rape and child abuse cases where SOL have expired in Portugal, how is that going to work in the Madeleine case, A British subject allegedly killed in Portugal by a German national held in a German prison whose last country where he was considered a free man was Italy where papers need to be served to get extradition, you couldn't make it up.

IMO its a legal minefield and that is why if the BKA are so certain CB is the one it's taking so long and the lesser charges (not for the victims) are being dealt with, it might take all the time CB is jailed for to sort it.

It seems the Germans are applying for extradition because of CB's lawyer;

Fulscher has now played the legal process card, which means the German prosecution must undertake the necessary step of officially extraditing him from Italy.
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2022/06/23/exclusive-madeleine-mccann-suspect-update-extradition-request-begins-in-italy-for-christian-brueckner-over-five-new-cases/

[Eleanor]

It seems the Germans are applying for extradition because of CB's lawyer;

Fulscher has now played the legal process card, which means the German prosecution must undertake the necessary step of officially extraditing him from Italy.
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2022/06/23/exclusive-madeleine-mccann-suspect-update-extradition-request-begins-in-italy-for-christian-brueckner-over-five-new-cases/

What?  I thought Brueckner was in prison in Germany.  And I don't think they will be giving him back.  But then I doubt that Italy wants him.

[barrier]

What?  I thought Brueckner was in prison in Germany.  And I don't think they will be giving him back.  But then I doubt that Italy wants him.

I think legally the Germans have to officially extradite him to stand trial, thats how it reads, is it true though ?

[jassi]

It all seems rather strange. I can understand the original extradition problem as he was being charged for something
 other than what he was extradited for, but as he is now resident in Germany I can't see where Italy features any more. 

[Eleanor]

I think legally the Germans have to officially extradite him to stand trial, thats how it reads, is it true though ?

Perhaps Italy just sent him back anyway.  There is nothing to stop them from kicking him out.  Put him on a plane and then tell Germany which one.

[barrier]

Perhaps Italy just sent him back anyway.  There is nothing to stop them from kicking him out.  Put him on a plane and then tell Germany which one.

How can they , he's in a German prison.

[barrier]

It all seems rather strange. I can understand the original extradition problem as he was being charged for something
 other than what he was extradited for, but as he is now resident in Germany I can't see where Italy features any more.

Doesn't make a lot of sense does it.

[G-Unit]

Doesn't make a lot of sense does it.

It doesn't, does it? I wonder if Fulscher is just using everything he can think of?