New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Wonderfulspam]

Wonderfulspam: Spends morning requesting abduction/murder evidence from McCann supporters.

McCann supporters: Make blanket statement asserting that Maddie was abducted, as if that were evidence.

Wasn't it ever thus in 'the abduction' of MM.

Like I've said, just get back to us when Wolters reveals his concrete evidence, if he really has any that is, maybe there's something in the back of Brueckner's campervan or under his old mattress, or in the file marked 'abduction evidence' on the memory stick he buried under his dog.

[Mr Gray]

No he doesn't.

There isn't a shred of credible evidence Brueckner murdered Maddie, or that Maddie was ever abducted in the first place.

That's why no one is able to share a shred of credible evidence Brueckner murdered Maddie, or that Maddie was ever abducted in the first place.

Apart from on websleuths where fantasy is an equal substitute for evidence.

ive noticed how much yo hve posted over the last few months.....same old junk everytime. You dont know what Wolters has...neither do i. Ypu should stop imagining you do...perhaps all that skunk has affected you. Your posts are boring...i ....
i find it interesting that wolters makes a connection from Maddie to Behan to the american rape...ive got an idea what it is ad it fits perfecctly with all hes said before

[Vertigo Swirl]

If it’s true that the McCanns still prefer to believe that Madeleine is alive and hold onto hope that she is, one would have to admit it’s darned peculiar behaviour for a pair of supposed murderers when the Germans are apparently busting a gut to pin it on the perfect patsy.  Wouldn’t you think they’d be fully supportive of the German efforts rather than casting any sort of doubt on it?  Or is it because the McCanns are super intelligent and playing a cunning game of reverse psychology that only the super super SUPER intelligent. WUMs can spot?  Hmm…. I wonder…. 

[Wonderfulspam]

Totally feasible.   He seems to have pointers to the possibility that he did that

Brueckner has
1.  A black saloon car
     Black saloon car noticed cruising around Joanas village before hand

2.  Has camper vans and sleeps in off site places in it.
     Camper van was noticed with man in it parked there for several days.  The van left coinciding with Joana going missing

3.  Was around at the time IIRC.
     This needs checking, but I think it is so

4.  Has a history of *liking* children and abusing them. 
    Well known fact

5.  The camper van speculatively thought to have been used to abduct Madeleine was abandoned in a field in PdL
     Anyone know where? 

6.  He lived very close. 
     Whether he was living in the house he rented or in the run down villa, he was only about 7 miles away


Breuckner has quite a few pointers to the possibility of his being Joanas abductor.


BUT there is no defining clue, so NO PROOF.   He must be considered innocent without any.

Oh I see, lots of vague supposition then really.

I wonder why Wolters still hasn't connected the dots yet?

Perhaps someone from websleuths could contact Wolters, let him know about all the evidence he's missing.

I'm sure Leonor would be quite grateful not to be known as a child murderer for the rest of her life.

....and I still haven't been given a link to the justice for the Ciprianos go fund me page, no one has set one up, despite all the supporters who campaign tirelessly here on behalf of them.

Start putting your money where your mouths are, you'd be helping get justice for Joana, a worthy cause if ever there were.

[Wonderfulspam]

If it’s true that the McCanns still prefer to believe that Madeleine is alive and hold onto hope that she is, one would have to admit it’s darned peculiar behaviour for a pair of supposed murderers when the Germans are apparently busting a gut to pin it on the perfect patsy. Wouldn’t you think they’d be fully supportive of the German efforts rather than casting any sort of doubt on it?  Or is it because the McCanns are super intelligent and playing a cunning game of reverse psychology that only the super super SUPER intelligent. WUMs can spot?  Hmm…. I wonder…. 

Perhaps they realise he isn't about to be charged or convicted ever, because he didn't do it.

Not much point wasting their breath really is there.

[Wonderfulspam]

ive noticed how much yo hve posted over the last few months.....same old junk everytime. You dont know what Wolters has...neither do i. Ypu should stop imagining you do...perhaps all that skunk has affected you. Your posts are boring...i ....
i find it interesting that wolters makes a connection from Maddie to Behan to the american rape...ive got an idea what it is ad it fits perfecctly with all hes said before

He doesn't have anything, that much is obvious.

Infact, just the other week you were saying you were certain Wolters had a photo of Maddie, yet now you're saying you don't know what Wolters has?

[Vertigo Swirl]

On this forum you get silly bickering provoked mainly by the resident WUM (who frequently has to endure forced periods of silence owing to his crass stupidity).  .  On Websleuths they don’t tolerate WUMs so you get a higher level of discussion.   That’s why this forum is pretty much dead now and that one is extremely active.

My point amply proved today, many thanks to the WUM for doing so.

[Wonderfulspam]

My point amply proved today, many thanks to the WUM for doing so.

If you'd have just shared the abduction evidence, as requested earlier, this discussion could have ended hours ago, but you can't do that, because there isn't any.

[Mr Gray]

If you'd have just shared the abduction evidence, as requested earlier, this discussion could have ended hours ago, but you can't do that, because there isn't any.

I've shared it several times... Why should I bother doing it again just for you... It doesn't matter what you think

[Wonderfulspam]

I've shared it several times... Why should I bother doing it again just for you... It doesn't matter what you think

Then why reply?

Wouldn't it be better to pretend to ignore me, whilst not really ignoring me, like your other honest friend on here?

[Eleanor]

I've shared it several times... Why should I bother doing it again just for you... It doesn't matter what you think

The most sensible Comment so far today.

[sadie]

Oh I see, lots of vague supposition then really.

I wonder why Wolters still hasn't connected the dots yet?

Perhaps someone from websleuths could contact Wolters, let him know about all the evidence he's missing.

I'm sure Leonor would be quite grateful not to be known as a child murderer for the rest of her life.

....and I still haven't been given a link to the justice for the Ciprianos go fund me page, no one has set one up, despite all the supporters who campaign tirelessly here on behalf of them.

Start putting your money where your mouths are, you'd be helping get justice for Joana, a worthy cause if ever there were.

Whether you like it or not, the points that I have made are all valid pointers unless you would like to disprove any.

Where is the real evidence that JOANA IS DEAD.   THERE IS NONE, just Amarals and Cristovaos imagination.

Both are liars and Criminals, proven in Court.



So YOU, WS, prefer to believe the words of two PROVEN LIARS, both CRIMINALS, who have NO
CONCRETE EVIDENCE.   Two rogue officers who arranged, did they not, cruel Torture of Leonor Cipriano


Jeez, You are a long way down the Left Hand Path   (Aleister Crowley, the Beast)

[Wonderfulspam]

I've shared it several times... Why should I bother doing it again just for you... It doesn't matter what you think

The most sensible Comment so far today.

I think it's time someone started a new thread detailing all the abduction evidence, so we'd have reams of abduction evidence at our disposal, which supporters could then confront me with every time I say there isn't any.

That's one for the supporter mods to start I suppose.

I look forward to reading it all, I'm sure it will all be very compelling.

[Wonderfulspam]

Whether you like it or not, the points that I have made are all valid pointers unless you would like to disprove any.

Where is the real evidence that JOANA IS DEAD.   THERE IS NONE, just Amarals and Cristovaos imagination.

Both are liars and Criminals, proven in Court.



So YOU, WS, prefer to believe the words of two PROVEN LIARS, both CRIMINALS, who have NO
CONCRETE EVIDENCE.   Two rogue officers who arranged, did they not, cruel Torture of Leonor Cipriano


Jeez, You are a long way down the Left Hand Path   (Aleister Crowley, the Beast)

Nope, I just looked at the total abscence of abduction evidence, coupled with the Ciprianos being s...ks, & Joana's mother not bothering to call the police when her daughter was abducted, & that makes it obvious she wasn't abducted.

[sadie]

Oh I see, lots of vague supposition then really.

I wonder why Wolters still hasn't connected the dots yet?

Perhaps someone from websleuths could contact Wolters, let him know about all the evidence he's missing.

I'm sure Leonor would be quite grateful not to be known as a child murderer for the rest of her life.

....and I still haven't been given a link to the justice for the Ciprianos go fund me page, no one has set one up, despite all the supporters who campaign tirelessly here on behalf of them.

Start putting your money where your mouths are, you'd be helping get justice for Joana, a worthy cause if ever there were.

If there is strong support, I would be prepared to put a sustantial amount up to start it

But I do not have the ability to lead it.   That needs a very special and bi-lingual person.   One with legal expertise.


I am very passionate about Joana and also her parents.   True Justice must be done