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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

So..What Was Judge Knowles Verdict This Week?😌
« on: June 05, 2020, 11:43:22 AM »
Been busy so haven’t caught up...

I can’t see Champagne corks flying on court steps with the old (as he calls himself) Jeremy Bamber hobbling down the stairs flanked by Holly and the Fab Four..

Have I missed it?


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« Last Edit: June 05, 2020, 06:06:35 PM by Ispywithmybigeye »
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: So..What Was Judge Knowles Verdict This Week?😌
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2020, 12:17:07 PM »
I'm also waiting for the reserved decision to be announced.  Seems like more than a week already.
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: So..What Was Judge Knowles Verdict This Week?😌
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2020, 12:43:41 PM »
I'm also waiting for the reserved decision to be announced.  Seems like more than a week already.

Tad quiet...

Ominously so..😌
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Offline APRIL

Re: So..What Was Judge Knowles Verdict This Week?😌
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2020, 03:21:04 PM »
Tad quiet...

Ominously so..😌



IT'S A "NO" FROM KNOWLES

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Offline Myster

Re: So..What Was Judge Knowles Verdict This Week?😌
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2020, 03:40:33 PM »
Good, and rightly so. tribunal shopping indeed.

Where to now?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/05/jeremy-bamber-refused-access-to-documents-on-essex-family-murders
Downhill, of course.  It seems Trudi B. wasn't prepared to wait ten years in the queue before another submission was rejected by the CCRC.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: So..What Was Judge Knowles Verdict This Week?😌
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2020, 03:44:07 PM »
Oh dear, where does this leave his appeal?  Perhaps we can get an update from those on the forum who are working on securing his release.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline APRIL

Re: So..What Was Judge Knowles Verdict This Week?😌
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2020, 03:46:24 PM »
Downhill, of course.  It seems Trudi B. wasn't prepared to wait ten years in the queue before another submission was rejected by the CCRC.


She may have seen the writing on the wall and jumped before she was pushed.

Offline Myster

Re: So..What Was Judge Knowles Verdict This Week?😌
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2020, 04:37:00 PM »
Mr Justice Julian Knowles judgement in detail... https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2020/1391.pdf
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: So..What Was Judge Knowles Verdict This Week?😌
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2020, 04:55:23 PM »
Mr Justice Julian Knowles judgement in detail... https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2020/1391.pdf
Looks like this saga will run and run.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: So..What Was Judge Knowles Verdict This Week?😌
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2020, 05:09:30 PM »
Good, and rightly so. tribunal shopping indeed.

Where to now?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/05/jeremy-bamber-refused-access-to-documents-on-essex-family-murders
Was there a chance being given to him?
"In his judgment, delivered a week after the hearing held on Skype at Leeds administrative court, Knowles said: “I am unable to say that the CPS erred in law in refusing to make the disclosure sought.”

However, the judge provided hope to Bamber in his quest to clear his name and ruled that new evidence in the case could be used to make fresh submissions to the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC). He said: “This does not leave the claimant without a remedy. Much work has already been done and he has the makings of a fresh submission to the CCRC including an unqualified report from Mr Boyce [a ballistics expert] in support of his case that there was a second moderator recovered from the farm. That provides him with the necessary basis for arguing that his convictions are unsafe."
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: So..What Was Judge Knowles Verdict This Week?😌
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2020, 06:04:30 PM »
Oh dear.

Looks like Jeremy Bamber and his campaign team have egg on their face again...😡


So what will be his next reason for an appeal when he’s 75 and has “fresh evidence? (&^&



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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: So..What Was Judge Knowles Verdict This Week?😌
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2020, 06:41:23 PM »
Was there a chance being given to him?
"In his judgment, delivered a week after the hearing held on Skype at Leeds administrative court, Knowles said: “I am unable to say that the CPS erred in law in refusing to make the disclosure sought.”

However, the judge provided hope to Bamber in his quest to clear his name and ruled that new evidence in the case could be used to make fresh submissions to the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC). He said: “This does not leave the claimant without a remedy. Much work has already been done and he has the makings of a fresh submission to the CCRC including an unqualified report from Mr Boyce [a ballistics expert] in support of his case that there was a second moderator recovered from the farm. That provides him with the necessary basis for arguing that his convictions are unsafe."




Julian is taking the pee, me thinks

It says”



“ But Mr Justice Knowles added: 'I am not on the material I have seen readily able to accept the premise that the existence of a second sound moderator is capable of affecting the safety of the claimant's convictions in any meaningful way.”


Meaning, if there were 40 moderators found in WHF it wouldn’t make a jot of difference.


Joe Stone, acting for JB, said: “ It seems ‘almost’ certain there was another moderator “ But he isn’t SURE. And even if there was, it wouldn’t change a thing.

The moderator the court are interested in is the one which contained Sheila’s blood, and which fitted the murder weapon...as Julian Knowles rightly pointed out,

Julian just wants shot of Bamber’s continuous weak pleas...he gets on everyone’s nerves.

He’s effectively telling JB to FO and moan to the  CCRC so they can tell him to FO Too  @)(++(*
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Offline steve_trousers

Re: So..What Was Judge Knowles Verdict This Week?😌
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2020, 06:48:25 PM »
Yup, he’s more or less slapped him down as a vexatious litigant. Feel free to appeal via the CCRC, Mr Bamber.



Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: So..What Was Judge Knowles Verdict This Week?😌
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2020, 06:58:56 PM »
Was there a chance being given to him?
"In his judgment, delivered a week after the hearing held on Skype at Leeds administrative court, Knowles said: “I am unable to say that the CPS erred in law in refusing to make the disclosure sought.”

However, the judge provided hope to Bamber in his quest to clear his name and ruled that new evidence in the case could be used to make fresh submissions to the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC). He said: “This does not leave the claimant without a remedy. Much work has already been done and he has the makings of a fresh submission to the CCRC including an unqualified report from Mr Boyce [a ballistics expert] in support of his case that there was a second moderator recovered from the farm. That provides him with the necessary basis for arguing that his convictions are unsafe."




Robby, I truly think Julian Knowles is having a laugh to himself.

Read between the lines.

He said:

 “This does not leave the claimant without a remedy. Much work has already been done and he has the makings of a fresh submission to the CCRC including an unqualified report from Mr Boyce [a ballistics expert] in support of his case that there was a second moderator recovered from the farm. That provides him with the necessary basis for arguing that his convictions are unsafe.”



Much work has already been done and he has the makings of a fresh submission to the CCRC including an unqualified report from Mr Boyce [a ballistics expert] in support of his case that there was a second moderator recovered from the farm.”[b[/b]


“....UNQUALIFIED report from Mr Boyce...”



Julian Knowles also said:


“'I am not on the material I have seen readily able to accept the premise that the existence of a second sound moderator is capable of affecting the safety of the claimant's convictions in any meaningful way”

So, he’s effectively saying — “Doesn’t matter if another 1000 moderators were found at WHF — the one found that had been attached to the murder weapon and which contained Sheila’s blood is the only one the court is interested in. If the other 1000 moderators have no blood inside, that reinforces the obvious: Sheila was shot with the moderator which contained her blood. IF the other moderator which you’re only ‘sure’ exists but you don’t know for certain that it does, but if this fitted the murder weapon (despite Nevill Bamber only buying one moderator when purchasing that rifle), and it ALSO contained Sheila’s blood, that would simply prove the murderer used two moderators to shoot Sheila. Maybe, for some unknown reason, the murderer changed the moderator when loading the second bullet to kill Sheila? Seems unlikely the murderer would hide one moderator and not the other, unless they deliberately planted an identical moderator which they never used in the shootings to try and bamboozle the police.”

Whichever way you look at it, and if another moderator does indeed exist, Jeremy Bamber is digging an even bigger hole for himself....



Julian Knowles is definitely taking the pee

He knows Jeremy Bamber ain’t going anywhere, ever  ^*&&
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