British History Matters!

[Carana]

I'm not sure I understand why the title of this forum has changed. Every country's history matters, doesn't it?

[Carana]

Hmm.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-colonialism-africa-british-empire-slavery-a9564541.html

[Vertigo Swirl]

I'm not sure I understand why the title of this forum has changed. Every country's history matters, doesn't it?

That’s as bad as saying “All Lives Matter” in response to “Black Lives Matter”!

[faithlilly]

Hmm.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-colonialism-africa-british-empire-slavery-a9564541.html

Dear oh dear.

[Eleanor]

Dear oh dear.

He did have a point you know.

[Vertigo Swirl]

He did have a point you know.

There’s a good programme on at the moment in which Michael Portillo does a train journey through Asia, and in oarticular down the Malay peninsula and to Singapore.  He meets up with a number of Malay folk none of who has a bad word to say about the British and their colonial past.  In fact they positively stress the benefits of British rule on their country. Of course, if they were white and saying the same thing they would be branded racists and publicly shamed.  Not all aspects of colonialism were good, but not all were bad either.  It’s a complex,issue which the simple minded can only deal with by describing the UK’s colonial past as evil beyond belief.  They should do a comparison with Belgium’s colonial activities if they want to see true evil.

[Eleanor]

There’s a good programme on at the moment in which Michael Portillo does a train journey through Asia, and in oarticular down the Malay peninsula and to Singapore.  He meets up with a number of Malay folk none of who has a bad word to say about the British and their colonial past.  In fact they positively stress the benefits of British rule on their country. Of course, if they were white and saying the same thing they would be branded racists and publicly shamed.  Not all aspects of colonialism were good, but not all were bad either.  It’s a complex,issue which the simple minded can only deal with by describing the UK’s colonial past as evil beyond belief.  They should do a comparison with Belgium’s colonial activities if they want to see true evil.

Very true.  And it is a complex issue.  But a waste of time discussing it with people who don't want to acknowledge the good of it.

[Carana]

I can't think of any Belgians I know who are particularly proud of their colonial past.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I can't think of any Belgians I know who are particularly proud of their colonial past.

And nor should they be.  I am neither proud nor ashamed of Britain’s colonial past.  It is in the past, I had no say over it, why should I apologise for it?  It did a lot of good, it did alot of bad, do I wish it had never happened?  Well the world would certainly be a very different place if everyone had always stayed put and never ventured forth to conquer other lands.  I reckon we’d probably all still be living in the Dark Ages without that spirit of endavour, invention, conquest and exploitation.

[faithlilly]

Very true.  And it is a complex issue.  But a waste of time discussing it with people who don't want to acknowledge the good of it.

Yes it is a complex issue and that’s why we should continue discussing it, the harm it has caused and what lessons can be learned.

[Eleanor]

Yes it is a complex issue and that’s why we should continue discussing it, the harm it has caused and what lessons can be learned.

The British Raj are all dead.  And what was India is now a total mess.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Yes it is a complex issue and that’s why we should continue discussing it, the harm it has caused and what lessons can be learned.

Indeed, lets have the truth the whole truth and nothing but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7HyuLPWF9I

if we need to tear down statues I suggest this rat faced  terrorist should be top of the list.  Words from a white fascist? No!  Black south african!

Nelson global luvvie- Here he is singing about murdering whites...  Ladies and Gentlemen I give you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGzuyCtb_Ms

[faithlilly]

Indeed, lets have the truth the whole truth and nothing but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7HyuLPWF9I

if we need to tear down statues I suggest this rat faced  terrorist should be top of the list.  Words from a white fascist? No!  Black south african!

Nelson global luvvie- Here he is singing about murdering whites...  Ladies and Gentlemen I give you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGzuyCtb_Ms

Do you have any videos showing what the authorities were doing to black South Africans at the time....just for balance you understand.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Being a nasty racist country you have to wonder why they flock here?  I don't see any of those offended by black lives not mattering  rushing to Africa... well unless they want to save the elephants...

They were stolen from AFRICA... we have planes to take you back home. Has slavery stopped?   No!

[Miss Taken Identity]

Do you have any videos showing what the authorities were doing to black South Africans at the time....just for balance you understand.

Oh we all know about and hated apartheid. But no one was handing the bad white guys a good run- they were deemed,nasty and  evil,, so As I read it  the demi God Mandela wasn't as saintly as he is remembered and worshiped at the time.