British History Matters!

[faithlilly]

Being a nasty racist country you have to wonder why they flock here?  I don't see any of those offended by black lives not mattering  rushing to Africa... well unless they want to save the elephants...

They were stolen from AFRICA... we have planes to take you back home. Has slavery stopped?   No!

No doubt those stolen from Africa have been citizens of this nation for longer than some of our families.

PS no videos then ?

[Miss Taken Identity]

No doubt those stolen from Africa have been citizens of this nation for longer than some of our families.

PS no videos then ?

SO why are they whinging about it then?

The person on the video gives an honest account using stats hwich is referenced. He has no love for apartheid or the White regime- he makes comparisons. but he offers- if you watch the video- the difference between Mandela rule and White rule.

So the video addresses these issues.   You and I were not born during apartied, we are not qualified to give expert analysis, many black who did and have  survived are experts, they have no voice.

[faithlilly]

SO why are they whinging about it then?

The person on the video gives an honest account using stats hwich is referenced. He has no love for apartheid or the White regime- he makes comparisons. but he offers- if you watch the video- the difference between Mandela rule and White rule.

So the video addresses these issues.   You and I were not born during apartied, we are not qualified to give expert analysis, many black who did and have  survived are experts, they have no voice.

One opinion from one black South African ? You’re not looking for the truth, you’re looking for justification for your biases.

[Miss Taken Identity]

One opinion from one black South African ? You’re not looking for the truth, you’re looking for justification for your biases.

The person  in the video is not a black African. My Brother in law ism and he knows more about his history that you do!

 I have no bias- I do not envy, or covet other peoples lives or property.  As you and your ilk seem to do.

There  are many successful black British men/women- how can you possible claim they are victims- that is a slur on their talent!

[faithlilly]

The person  in the video is not a black African. My Brother in law ism and he knows more about his history that you do!

 I have no bias- I do not envy, or covet other peoples lives or property.  As you and your ilk seem to do.

There  are many successful black British men/women- how can you possible claim they are victims- that is a slur on their talent!

I thought you said the man on the video was a black South African...if not apologies....but I really couldn’t believe that someone would post a video of a white South African critiquing Nelson Mandela and not know that bias was involved.

BTW how do you know that I’m not black ?

And I didn’t mention the word victims.

[Miss Taken Identity]

I thought you said the man on the video was a black South African...if not apologies....but I really couldn’t believe that someone would post a video of a white South African critiquing Nelson Mandela and not know that bias was involved.

BTW how do you know that I’m not black ?

And I didn’t mention the word victims.

Faith. I do not know what colour  of skin anyone is on this forum and I don't give it a thought.  I add to the debates on this forum AND my opinion would not falter if you were black /white/ Chinese.

I agree with you on some issues and not on others - your skin colour wouldn't make me change my opinions on subjects we BOTH find interesting.

I hate injustice  in all forms and I am known to stand up for many issues which affect vulnerable people- Ok I do admit mainly women and children, however only because they are mostly  real victims  in all races and cultures.

That doesn't make me a goody two shoes, I have many faults, racism isn't one of them.neither is being a right wing fascist- But those names don't bother me- I really couldn't care less about them being banded about by the ignorant.

[faithlilly]

Faith. I do not know what colour  of skin anyone is on this forum and I don't give it a thought.  I add to the debates on this forum AND my opinion would not falter if you were black /white/ Chinese.

I agree with you on some issues and not on others - your skin colour wouldn't make me change my opinions on subjects we BOTH find interesting.

I hate injustice  in all forms and I am known to stand up for many issues which affect vulnerable people- Ok I do admit mainly women and children, however only because they are mostly  real victims  in all races and cultures.

That doesn't make me a goody two shoes, I have many faults, racism isn't one of them.neither is being a right wing fascist- But those names don't bother me- I really couldn't care less about them being banded about by the ignorant.

I’m not going to get pulled into a unnecessary argument with you MTI but I will say this...you seem to be very sensitive about being called a racist and a right wing facist...it’s almost as if you have to get your defence in first, as if you’re used to being called those names.....if I was you and stop and ask myself why ?

[Miss Taken Identity]

I’m not going to get pulled into a unnecessary argument with you MTI but I will say this...you seem to be very sensitive about being called a racist and a right wing facist...it’s almost as if you have to get your defence in first, as if you’re used to being called those names.....if I was you and stop and ask myself why ?

We don't need to have a bun fight Faith. I respect your view I just don't share it.  Yes I have been called racist and right wing fascist, ON here!  I spoke up about cultures which have caused harm to many women and children- me hatin muzlims and all that cr@p.  I don't need to stop and ask my self why I can easily answer that:
 racist= speaks up against Stalinist left wing wokers- Sees them for what they really are
Fascist=speaks up against Stalinist left wing wokers - call them out for the lies they tell.

Oh, just to verify. it is ONLY left wing and far left wing who seem to have those words held on every banner and badge ... ordinary folks just don't give a f...

I have pointed out on many occasions it isn't only white people who  ARE racist  look at Black life matters ha  ters and the caste system in India.. it is all over the world so the virtual signalling just isn't worth any points any more.

[faithlilly]

We don't need to have a bun fight Faith. I respect your view I just don't share it.  Yes I have been called racist and right wing fascist, ON here!  I spoke up about cultures which have caused harm to many women and children- me hatin muzlims and all that cr@p.  I don't need to stop and ask my self why I can easily answer that:
 racist= speaks up against Stalinist left wing wokers- Sees them for what they really are
Fascist=speaks up against Stalinist left wing wokers - call them out for the lies they tell.

Oh, just to verify. it is ONLY left wing and far left wing who seem to have those words held on every banner and badge ... ordinary folks just don't give a f...

I have pointed out on many occasions it isn't only white people who  ARE racist  look at Black life matters ha  ters and the caste system in India.. it is all over the world so the virtual signalling just isn't worth any points any more.

What do you think a Stalinist is ?

Just to clarify...do you hate all Muslims or merely the ones you judge subjugate women ?

And where did I say that all racists were white ? And yes ordinary people do give a f*ck as we have seen by the numbers at BLM marches throughout the country....or are you suggesting that they are all Stalinists ?

BTW I think you meant virtue signalling.

[Miss Taken Identity]

What do you think a Stalinist is ?

Just to clarify...do you hate all Muslims or merely the ones you judge subjugate women ?

And where did I say that all racists were white ? And yes ordinary people do give a f*ck as we have seen by the numbers at BLM marches throughout the country....or are you suggesting that they are all Stalinists ?

BTW I think you meant virtue signalling.

a Stalinist is- just what it says on the tin.  read all about him here.
many left wing pretend to be for the workers but that is a known falsehood.  The party the party workers  all that shoite.



'And where did I say that all racists were white'  known tactic Faith- where have you ever condemned  anyone  who are a threat too  white indigenous folks of this country who did not share your point of view?

DiD I hear you say anything about the black yoofs throwing bottles at horses and attacking white police?  NO! was this racist attacks? Will you go and protest about white lives matter too- to show your solidarity to your racist badge you wear?

AND did you mention the George (omg what a vile b........ to have as a 'hero') his victim, the pregnant woman who was held at knife point by that animal? Nope not a word about her or her unborn baby.

The population of the UK is over 69 million  a few hundred went on the rampage  on the presence of helping blacks get equal rights  to which they already have!  Says it all really.

Not one of those protesters were brought here in chains.  Will they go to Italy and pull down their ancient buildings  where Christians were eaten by lions?

You and your cohorts need to be careful the SILENT majority are watching!

[faithlilly]

a Stalinist is- just what it says on the tin.  read all about him here.
many left wing pretend to be for the workers but that is a known falsehood.  The party the party workers  all that shoite.



'And where did I say that all racists were white'  known tactic Faith- where have you ever condemned  anyone  who are a threat too  white indigenous folks of this country who did not share your point of view?

DiD I hear you say anything about the black yoofs throwing bottles at horses and attacking white police?  NO! was this racist attacks? Will you go and protest about white lives matter too- to show your solidarity to your racist badge you wear?

AND did you mention the George (omg what a vile b........ to have as a 'hero') his victim, the pregnant woman who was held at knife point by that animal? Nope not a word about her or her unborn baby.

The population of the UK is over 69 million  a few hundred went on the rampage  on the presence of helping blacks get equal rights  to which they already have!  Says it all really.

Not one of those protesters were brought here in chains.  Will they go to Italy and pull down their ancient buildings  where Christians were eaten by lions?

You and your cohorts need to be careful the SILENT majority are watching!

Admit it MTI, you really don’t know what a Stalinist is. You’ve heard the term mentioned in connection with the left on some debate or Facebook page and have run with it.

Second point, outside the narrow framework of these threads you have no idea what I think about anything.

Any form of violence is reprehensible no matter what the colour of your skin but more importantly kills the message you are trying to send. I have campaigned many times for white men imprisoned or killed by the police. For me it’s always about justice, never race. Your opinion appears to be different.

As to George Floyd, please do your research, he was sentenced to five years in prison for his involvement in an armed robbery in 2007.  The woman robbed, Aracely Henriquez, was injured by another man, and there’s no evidence she was pregnant at the time of the incident.

The marches aren’t about equal rights but equal treatment.

This always makes me laugh....if the majority is silent how do you know what they are saying ?

[Wonderfulspam]

In the US the marches, protests, violence, rioting & looting are about hating the police & wanting them de-funded.

In the UK I'm not really sure what they are protesting for, since we already have equal rights.

Just a bunch of virtue signalling bandwagon jumpers really.

[faithlilly]

In the US the marches, protests, violence, rioting & looting are about hating the police & wanting them de-funded.

In the UK I'm not really sure what they are protesting for, since we already have equal rights.

Just a bunch of virtue signalling bandwagon jumpers really.

Not equal , equal treatment.

[Wonderfulspam]

Not equal , equal treatment.

In what way do blacks not receive equal treatment, IYO ?

[Eleanor]

In what way do blacks not receive equal treatment, IYO ?

I have a nasty suspicion that some Black People don't want equal treatment.