We appear to have come full circle to Morocco again!

[Holly Goodhead]

Attempted child abductions whilst on holiday

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/uk/news/a555324/child-abduction-intercepted-cyprus-holiday-resort/

Attempted allegedly.

[Holly Goodhead]

Abducted whilst on holiday

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/crime/mum-sues-thomas-cook-over-child-abduction-kids-club-278793

Came to no harm.

[Holly Goodhead]

Caroline Dickinson was raped and murdered in her bed whilst on a school holiday in France.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/girl-murdered-on-school-trip-to-france-1329474.html

Wasn't abducted and didn't disappear.  Raped and murdered in her bed.

[Brietta]

I don't see the relevance with a British child disappearing on holiday to Portugal?

There's no comparison between disappeared/trafficked children from under developed countries, like Africa, and a British child disappearing from Portugal.  You need to compare like for like Brie.

Sadly ... every year British and other nationals return from holiday as a result of accident without one or other of their children.  Any criticism for them?

I am astounded you really don't appear to see how you are devaluing the lives of trafficked children because they are 'from under developed countries'.
I have never heard such patronising nonsense.  There is every comparison with the trafficked child whoever they are or wherever they come from.

The routes and the contacts are all in place either to leave Africa for Europe or vice versa and there seems to be no doubt they were well used.

He fantasised to his friend about the use he could put his thirty foot Winnebago type vehicle to ... what if it was not a fantasy? https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2020/06/17/maddie-mccann-investigators-want-to-trace-movements-in-spain-of-winnebago-motor-home-german-suspect-christian-brueckner-owned/

[Mr Gray]

The stats show 0% of children from Britain disappear whilst holidaying anywhere in the world with their family.

what do you THINK that proves...it prove snothing apart that abductions are rare

[Vertigo Swirl]

Wasn't abducted and didn't disappear.  Raped and murdered in her bed.

I knew you’d dismiss every single example.  These cases show that children can come to harm at the hand of strangers whilst on holiday, so why are they not relevant?  You believe Madeleine was abducted by strangers anyway, so exactly what point are you trying to prove?

[Holly Goodhead]

Portugal features in the top 3 of the Global Peace Index for 2019.  Other top performers: Iceland, NZ, Austria and Denmark. Worst performers: Somalia, Afghanistan, Syria, South Sudan, Yemen, Iraq.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index

[Vertigo Swirl]

Body found which isn't the case with MM.

she disappeared first, you said 0% of children on holiday disappear, you’re wrong.

[Vertigo Swirl]

BN was living in create at the time of his dissapearance.

SP and AP were visiting family in their home countries.

They were away from their homes, ergo they were on holiday.   Explain the difference between being on holiday with relatives and being on holiday in a resort as far as the possibility of being abducted and coming to harm at the hands of a stranger is concerned.

[Holly Goodhead]

Sadly ... every year British and other nationals return from holiday as a result of accident without one or other of their children.  Any criticism for them?

I am astounded you really don't appear to see how you are devaluing the lives of trafficked children because they are 'from under developed countries'.
I have never heard such patronising nonsense.  There is every comparison with the trafficked child whoever they are or wherever they come from.

The routes and the contacts are all in place either to leave Africa for Europe or vice versa and there seems to be no doubt they were well used.

He fantasised to his friend about the use he could put his thirty foot Winnebago type vehicle to ... what if it was not a fantasy? https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2020/06/17/maddie-mccann-investigators-want-to-trace-movements-in-spain-of-winnebago-motor-home-german-suspect-christian-brueckner-owned/

No comparison between abduction and accident other than they both begin with A!

Brie surely you can see children from under developed countries and/or countries that feature at the bottom of the GPI index will fare worse than those from developed countries in terms of risk of being abducted/trafficked?! 

[Holly Goodhead]

she disappeared first, you said 0% of children on holiday disappear, you’re wrong.

If I'm wrong please identify a child disappearing on holiday whereby the child/body has still not been accounted for? 

[Holly Goodhead]

They were away from their homes, ergo they were on holiday.   Explain the difference between being on holiday with relatives and being on holiday in a resort as far as the possibility of being abducted and coming to harm at the hands of a stranger is concerned.

I thought we were comparing like for like?  MM did not disappear from Glasgow or Liverpool whilst visiting her grandparents. 

[Holly Goodhead]

what do you THINK that proves...it prove snothing apart that abductions are rare

I don't think it proves anything but it does show 0% of children from Britain disappear whilst holidaying anywhere in the world with their family.

[Brietta]

No comparison between abduction and accident other than they both begin with A!

Brie surely you can see children from under developed countries and/or countries that feature at the bottom of the GPI index will fare worse than those from developed countries in terms of risk of being abducted/trafficked?!

I see no difference between the abduction of children from wherever or whoever they may be. Obiously THE RIGHTS of the CHILD mean nothing to you.

Having neatly side stepped ... "We appear to have come full circle to Morocco again!" ... is there the slightest chance you will allow us to return to the topic.

[Mr Gray]

I don't think it proves anything but it does show 0% of children from Britain disappear whilst holidaying anywhere in the world with their family.

theres maddie and norah...both disappeared...but you are wrong...it does prove something...it proves abductions by starngers are rare