We appear to have come full circle to Morocco again!

[Vertigo Swirl]

well  this isnt in the   uk  but  40  years ago this year  here in australia   baby  azaria chamberlian  vanished  out of her  family  tent  they  never  found her  body its a  totally   diffrent  case  but  yeah

Doesn’t count, wasn’t British and I bet you still believe the mum did it anyway.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

how many have died in accidents whilst their parents dined nearby...none....its  a pathetic argumnet

Probability... Possibility.... these are arguments you use on a daily basis to claim there's "evidence" of an abduction.

[sadie]

Since the history of mass tourism from UK to Europe afaik MM is the British 'disappeared' child.  No one before, during or since.

Families regularly jet off to locations that present a far greater risk of child abduction than Portugal/PDL eg South America/Mexico and yet afaik there are no known cases of British children disappearing in these places?

I don't know of another case anywhere in the world where a child has 'disappeared' on a family holiday?

What features of this case make it unprecedented?  Context is very important imo.

If MM disappeared at the hands of organised criminals why only her?

No doubt that I shall get shouted down again, but I think it is her bloodline.  From her family names on both Mother and fathers side, she is a pure blood Cannanite/ Phoenician it appears.

Some websites say that Jesus was a Cannanite and if he was, then so was his cousin John the Baptist.   Also his uncle Joseph of Arimathea and no doubt other well known Biblical names.  Some websites say that Jesus survived the Crucifiction and was taken by Joseph of A. to regain his strength in the cave that wealthy man Joseph had prepared for his own burial chamber.

From there he reputedly escaped and travelled to the south of France via several of the Greek /Turkish islands with his beloved wife Mary Magdeline and his desciples and cousin John the Baptist.  It is said that Jesus and Mary produced children and that the Sinclairs, St Clares , the Lyells are direct line descendants.

Let me make it clear, I am not in the least religious, but I have found it incredibly interesting unearthing all these things.  No way can I prove that they are true, but from all the articles on the internet, I am inclined to think they are.  Seems the RC Church has reasons to keep this quiet.  I was told that it disproved part of their reason for being, but I don't know how.


OK , so if they have Madeleine.   
What do they want her for?

Some thoughts:

1)  If a rich pure bred mans wife cannot conceive. 
He is very proud of his heritage and does not want to lose the status nor the financial rewards it brings etc.  He wants a pure bred son to keep the bloodline going.  He is wanting to use Madeleine as a concubine.

2)  Someone wants to breed a son who can be claimed to be the re-incarnation of Jesus/St John the Baptist.  A new Saviour.   A child who by Adulthood will have been groomed into the ways of deception (by Magick?) so winning acclaim.and status … and via these incredible wealth and the possibility of ruling the world (like the Illuminatii, it seems) as the hyper religious rush to follow him.

3)  Someone wants a very pretty, bubbly and clever daughter of good birth.  Madeleine has the right bloodline so is the 'right' choice

Please remember that I believe that I saw Madeleine in a video from 2012, so if kept for several years, she is very likely to be alive still.  That video is with OG, so I cannot share.

I fully realise that I might be barking up the wrong tree.


Any of you got any alternative ideas, assuming Madeleine is still alive ?


Tin hat on   

[sadie]

Deleted.  Too late, info already given

[Holly Goodhead]

I see no difference between the abduction of children from wherever or whoever they may be. Obiously THE RIGHTS of the CHILD mean nothing to you.

Having neatly side stepped ... "We appear to have come full circle to Morocco again!" ... is there the slightest chance you will allow us to return to the topic.

You might see no difference Brie but that's not how law enforcement around the world views it.  Some children/countries are at much greater risk than others.

Morroco doesn't have any history of trafficking children from developed countries:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_Morocco

Organised crime is just that and it works on the same principles as lawful entities with risk and reward featuring strongly.  Criminal networks will not to look to traffic children from developed countries as the risks are too high.  They know governments and law enforcement from those countries will be hot on their tails unlike under developed countries.

Can you name a single child born in a developed country to parents also born in a developed country trafficked elsewhere? 

[Carana]

I'm sceptical about the idea that she may have been trafficked to Morocco as well.

I'm to work out how much of the Mail interview with CB's former friend may be accurate.

This bit, at least, seems a bit iffy, as if there might have been key words to get attention, either by said friend or by the Mail:

'He was always bragging about making money. He even talked about selling kids maybe to Morocco, and I think he probably sold Maddie to someone – maybe a sex ring.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8445183/I-know-did-Christian-Brueckners-friend-says-German-guilty-taking-Madeleine-McCann.html

[The General]

No doubt that I shall get shouted down again, but I think it is her bloodline.  From her family names on both Mother and fathers side, she is a pure blood Cannanite/ Phoenician it appears.

Some websites say that Jesus was a Cannanite and if he was, then so was his cousin John the Baptist.   Also his uncle Joseph of Arimathea and no doubt other well known Biblical names.  Some websites say that Jesus survived the Crucifiction and was taken by Joseph of A. to regain his strength in the cave that wealthy man Joseph had prepared for his own burial chamber.

From there he reputedly escaped and travelled to the south of France via several of the Greek /Turkish islands with his beloved wife Mary Magdeline and his desciples and cousin John the Baptist.  It is said that Jesus and Mary produced children and that the Sinclairs, St Clares , the Lyells are direct line descendants.

Let me make it clear, I am not in the least religious, but I have found it incredibly interesting unearthing all these things.  No way can I prove that they are true, but from all the articles on the internet, I am inclined to think they are.  Seems the RC Church has reasons to keep this quiet.  I was told that it disproved part of their reason for being, but I don't know how.


OK , so if they have Madeleine.   
What do they want her for?

Some thoughts:

1)  If a rich pure bred mans wife cannot conceive. 
He is very proud of his heritage and does not want to lose the status nor the financial rewards it brings etc.  He wants a pure bred son to keep the bloodline going.  He is wanting to use Madeleine as a concubine.

2)  Someone wants to breed a son who can be claimed to be the re-incarnation of Jesus/St John the Baptist.  A new Saviour.   A child who by Adulthood will have been groomed into the ways of deception (by Magick?) so winning acclaim.and status … and via these incredible wealth and the possibility of ruling the world (like the Illuminatii, it seems) as the hyper religious rush to follow him.

3)  Someone wants a very pretty, bubbly and clever daughter of good birth.  Madeleine has the right bloodline so is the 'right' choice

Please remember that I believe that I saw Madeleine in a video from 2012, so if kept for several years, she is very likely to be alive still.  That video is with OG, so I cannot share.

I fully realise that I might be barking up the wrong tree.


Any of you got any alternative ideas, assuming Madeleine is still alive ?


Tin hat on   

I think it all makes sense now.

[Holly Goodhead]

I'm sceptical about the idea that she may have been trafficked to Morocco as well.

I'm to work out how much of the Mail interview with CB's former friend may be accurate.

This bit, at least, seems a bit iffy, as if there might have been key words to get attention, either by said friend or by the Mail:

'He was always bragging about making money. He even talked about selling kids maybe to Morocco, and I think he probably sold Maddie to someone – maybe a sex ring.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8445183/I-know-did-Christian-Brueckners-friend-says-German-guilty-taking-Madeleine-McCann.html

I would say about as likely as the McCanns selling MM to pay off debts as reported in the British tabloids:

He told the court that the articles included a variety of false claims, including that the McCanns killed their daughter, sold her to pay off debts or were involved in "wife-swapping".

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-mccanns-idUKL1924898220080319

I'm surprised some here are falling for all this nonsense re CB especially when they have first hand knowledge of how the likes of the McCanns and RM were treated by the British tabloids.

[barrier]

I would say about as likely as the McCanns selling MM to pay off debts as reported in the British tabloids:

He told the court that the articles included a variety of false claims, including that the McCanns killed their daughter, sold her to pay off debts or were involved in "wife-swapping".

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-mccanns-idUKL1924898220080319

I'm surprised some here are falling for all this nonsense re CB especially when they have first hand knowledge of how the likes of the McCanns and RM were treated by the British tabloids.

Its a gift that keeps giving Holly.

[Mr Gray]

I would say about as likely as the McCanns selling MM to pay off debts as reported in the British tabloids:

He told the court that the articles included a variety of false claims, including that the McCanns killed their daughter, sold her to pay off debts or were involved in "wife-swapping".

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-mccanns-idUKL1924898220080319

I'm surprised some here are falling for all this nonsense re CB especially when they have first hand knowledge of how the likes of the McCanns and RM were treated by the British tabloids.

I dint think you are in
any position to talk about falling for nonsense...

CB is a totally believable suspect whilst yours us totally unbelievable.
No doubt part of your argument is no blonde German has, ever abducted a blonde 3 yr old

[Lace]

I think he sold her for someone and had a share of the money.   How do you account for this -  Then, police again focused on Morocco in June, after GCHQ in Cheltenham picked up phone intercept messages in Arabic referring to "the little blonde girl", a German man, and a ferry from Tarifa in Spain.   Bit of a coincidence don't you think?  He knew about drug trafficking he would know about child trafficking.

[The General]

I think he sold her for someone and had a share of the money.   How do you account for this -  Then, police again focused on Morocco in June, after GCHQ in Cheltenham picked up phone intercept messages in Arabic referring to "the little blonde girl", a German man, and a ferry from Tarifa in Spain.   Bit of a coincidence don't you think?  He knew about drug trafficking he would know about child trafficking.

Not sure child traffickers need to supplement their income by stealing trinkets and old ladies handbags.

[Holly Goodhead]

I dint think you are in
any position to talk about falling for nonsense...

CB is a totally believable suspect whilst yours us totally unbelievable.
No doubt part of your argument is no blonde German has, ever abducted a blonde 3 yr old

You know the motive? 

[Carana]

I would say about as likely as the McCanns selling MM to pay off debts as reported in the British tabloids:

He told the court that the articles included a variety of false claims, including that the McCanns killed their daughter, sold her to pay off debts or were involved in "wife-swapping".

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-mccanns-idUKL1924898220080319

I'm surprised some here are falling for all this nonsense re CB especially when they have first hand knowledge of how the likes of the McCanns and RM were treated by the British tabloids.

I'm sceptical about the child trafficking to Morocco idea that his former friend mentioned. In other respects, I certainly find him to be a plausible lead to follow up on.

[Lace]

Not sure child traffickers need to supplement their income by stealing trinkets and old ladies handbags.

I don't think the child traffickers would.   That would be Christian B   a good candidate for breaking into houses,  someone they could use.