Author Topic: What evidence exists that MM's disappearance was sexually motivated?  (Read 38400 times)

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Offline G-Unit

I think it's quite unusual to have a person who makes a living as a burglar who is also a rapist paedophile

He also worked in catering I understand, so not all his living was made from burglaty.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Based on previous abduction cases

Such as?

In most cases when the motive was sexual either the child is found or a body recovered.  Not so in this case.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Mr Gray

Such as?

In most cases when the motive was sexual either the child is found or a body recovered.  Not so in this case.

It may be the norm in Portugal

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Can you name any British child abducted whilst on an overseas hol with family?

Yes I guess it's natural to think the worst in such a scenario but what actual evidence exists to support sexual over all other motives?
What has being on holiday and being British got to do with whether or not a child's disappearance is sexually motivated?  Once you can explain that I will answer.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Holly Goodhead

I don't know.  I'm not a Paedophile.  But I doubt he would want the goods damaged if he was selling Madeleine.

So you think a 30 year old male, who Afaik had no experience of childcare, would have the wherewithal to neatly fold back the covers of the bed and remove a child who was quite possibly sleeping?  KM said no sign of disturbance.  No flailing limbs disturbing bedding.  Mrs Fenn did not hear a sound. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

What has being on holiday and being British got to do with whether or not a child's disappearance is sexually motivated?  Once you can explain that I will answer.

Like for like.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

So you think a 30 year old male, who Afaik had no experience of childcare, would have the wherewithal to neatly fold back the covers of the bed and remove a child who was quite possibly sleeping?  KM said no sign of disturbance.  No flailing limbs disturbing bedding.  Mrs Fenn did not hear a sound.
Jesus, just how much child care training do you need to fold back covers on a bed and pick up a sleeping child??!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

So you think a 30 year old male, who Afaik had no experience of childcare, would have the wherewithal to neatly fold back the covers of the bed and remove a child who was quite possibly sleeping?  KM said no sign of disturbance.  No flailing limbs disturbing bedding.  Mrs Fenn did not hear a sound.
Out of interest, how much childcare training did your two suspects have?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Holly Goodhead

I think it's quite unusual to have a person who makes a living as a burglar who is also a rapist paedophile

Rapist paedophile?  Viewing pornograpgy, indecent exposure and child molestation.  The latter two offences were committed in his youth I believe? 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Erngath

I would think also the clue is in pedo abduction they only want a child for one thing.

Why would the mccs first thought be pedo abduction especially when kmc said this

the family had not considered a babysitter.
"In fact, we didn’t even consider it. We felt so secure we simply didn’t think it was necessary.”

Mrs McCann adds: “Hand on heart, it never once crossed my mind that this might not be a safe option.


So why was sexual motivation her first option of were Maddie had gone?

Because it sadly is the usual reason for children being abducted.
What other motive would you have thought of in a similar situation?
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Eleanor

I would think also the clue is in pedo abduction they only want a child for one thing.

Why would the mccs first thought be pedo abduction especially when kmc said this

the family had not considered a babysitter.
"In fact, we didn’t even consider it. We felt so secure we simply didn’t think it was necessary.”

Mrs McCann adds: “Hand on heart, it never once crossed my mind that this might not be a safe option.


So why was sexual motivation her first option of were Maddie had gone?

Every parents worst nightmare.

Someone once tried to break into my youngest son's bedroom on the ground floor.  He failed, but it was my first thought.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Out of interest, how much childcare training did your two suspects have?

One has a half sibling some 13 years younger.  By the time the half sibling was MM's age my suspect would be around 17 yoa. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Mr Gray

Rapist paedophile?  Viewing pornograpgy, indecent exposure and child molestation.  The latter two offences were committed in his youth I believe?
he's been found guilty of rape...once a paedophile always as I understand
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Offline Eleanor

So you think a 30 year old male, who Afaik had no experience of childcare, would have the wherewithal to neatly fold back the covers of the bed and remove a child who was quite possibly sleeping?  KM said no sign of disturbance.  No flailing limbs disturbing bedding.  Mrs Fenn did not hear a sound.

At the very least, whatever his motive, he will have been careful.  I don't understand why you can't see this.

Offline Eleanor

Rapist paedophile?  Viewing pornograpgy, indecent exposure and child molestation.  The latter two offences were committed in his youth I believe?

Oh, well that's alright then.