Author Topic: What evidence exists that MM's disappearance was sexually motivated?  (Read 38380 times)

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Offline jassi

One possibility imo is such a "horrible job" could be concealment of a corpse, for example.


First prove there was a corpse
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

I don't have him down as a psychic.....

Someone could arrange such a horrible job in advance with an offender. The offender doesn't have to be psychic.

I think going back to a sexual motive there are several scenarios to consider:

1. Predatory paedophile. Though if this was the case I would have expected her body to have been found.
2. Trafficking a child into the sex trade. This would be rare given MM's age and also unlikely because she was a UK tourist and so such an abduction would invite much attention
3. If there was parental involvement in MM's death then it's hard to explain why an accident would be concealed. The threat of a "neglect" charge surely wouldn't have been deemed to subsequently lead to a prison sentence especially given the family's connections to people in high places. If they had given MM an over the counter antihistamine (as a sleep aid) then this wouldn't have led to a prison sentence even when combined with alleged "neglect". However if there was some evidence of sexual abuse then that would provide a higher likelihood of the need (motive) to cover up an accident.

All three of the above are pure speculation and just ideas exploring possible sexual motive scenarios. I am not suggesting that there is any evidence that MM was killed by a predatory paedophile nor the victim of sexual abuse carried out by anyone in her family or their friends. Also the parents are quite rightly legally presumed innocent of any involvement in her dissappearance.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club


First prove there was a corpse

I don't believe they ever will in this case.

Offline Mr Gray

He doesn't have a history of attempting to abduct children or the more serious offences that result in long custodial sentences.

Do your suspects have a history of abducting children or any criminal activity

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Like for like.
Whatis that supposed to mean?

How about name just one other British child that has been abducted by a childless couple wanting a little girl to raise as their own whilst on holiday?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Someone could arrange such a horrible job in advance with an offender. The offender doesn't have to be psychic.

I think going back to a sexual motive there are several scenarios to consider:

1. Predatory paedophile. Though if this was the case I would have expected her body to have been found.
2. Trafficking a child into the sex trade. This would be rare given MM's age and also unlikely because she was a UK tourist and so such an abduction would invite much attention
3. If there was parental involvement in MM's death then it's hard to explain why an accident would be concealed. The threat of a "neglect" charge surely wouldn't have been deemed to subsequently lead to a prison sentence especially given the family's connections to people in high places. If they had given MM an over the counter antihistamine (as a sleep aid) then this wouldn't have led to a prison sentence even when combined with alleged "neglect". However if there was some evidence of sexual abuse then that would provide a higher likelihood of the need (motive) to cover up an accident.

All three of the above are pure speculation and just ideas exploring possible sexual motive scenarios. I am not suggesting that there is any evidence that MM was killed by a predatory paedophile nor the victim of sexual abuse carried out by anyone in her family or their friends. Also the parents are quite rightly legally presumed innocent of any involvement in her dissappearance.
You mean like "we're planning to OD our kid tomorrow and it's likely she will fall off the sofa and die so could we book you for a bit of body occultation"?  If not like that, perhaps you could explain how you think it was arranged for CB to dispose of a child who suddenly died in an accident?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Lace

I think it's quite unusual to have a person who makes a living as a burglar who is also a rapist paedophile


Didn't the person who assaulted those children in their apartments also take things when he was there?

Offline Mr Gray

I can just imagine the reaction of sceptics if a couple of friends of Gerry admitted he knew what happened to Maddie..

Offline Mr Gray

Too few cases to draw comparisons.  Where children have been abducted from their beds: Sophie Hook and Alesha MacPhail the bodies were recovered.  How was soc found in terms of their beds?

The only question is how likely is it....with Breukner living nearby ...quite likely

Offline Holly Goodhead

Whatis that supposed to mean?

How about name just one other British child that has been abducted by a childless couple wanting a little girl to raise as their own whilst on holiday?

Name me a 3 yoa child left night after night completely unsupervised in an unlocked hol apt where the parents MO of an evening was observable?

Means, motive, opportunity...
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Name me a 3 yoa child left night after night completely unsupervised in an unlocked hol apt where the parents MO of an evening was observable?

Means, motive, opportunity...
Now tell me CB had neither means, motive nor opportunity and why not.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Now tell me CB had neither means, motive nor opportunity and why not.

All those do is qualify him to be  a suspect- which he is.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Holly Goodhead

The only question is how likely is it....with Breukner living nearby ...quite likely

Hughes overheard about SH sleeping in the tent and Campbell was acquainted with the family.  Totally different scenarios.  How on earth was CB aware MM was home alone in 5A?
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Mr Gray

Hughes overheard about SH sleeping in the tent and Campbell was acquainted with the family.  Totally different scenarios.  How on earth was CB aware MM was home alone in 5A?
According to the police he was probably informed by an employee....it was written on the booking sheet kept in the Tapas reception

Offline Holly Goodhead

I find it strange that the so-called supporters appear desperate in their argument that MM has been abducted by a paedophile.

If the Mc's were here arguing I wonder if they would agree.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?