Vila do Bispo in West Portugal becomes a place of interest for the second time.

[G-Unit]

Nope ... I'm better interested in the vehicle apparently doing 315 km/h ... and the reason for it.

Not that the problem affected the 26th July 2007, however.

[pathfinder73]

Nope ... I'm better interested in the vehicle apparently doing 315 km/h ... and the reason for it.

315? The distance is only 2.2 miles.



5 min (3.6 km) via EM1293 and N270

[Miss Taken Identity]

Living on a hill months later was she?

They brought body finder Krugel over to PDL!

I am sure Kate and Gerry believed MBM was dead at some point very early on, why that changed we don't know, It may have something to do with the fact they feared a backlash, and Threw in a story about a childless couple, forgetting about the 'window' account of entry /exit.

 Forgiving the abductor-suspected paedophile gang was mentioned.

Then a business venture came to light and whoah...

I just want to know why if they suspected their daughter was abducted by a paedo gang she would come to no harm? AND why did Gerry go to USA? missing children? was Maddie seen there? - He isn't American and they have their own missing children.

It was a global business.

Re: the long road- perhaps they wanted to have a chat in private about'stuff'.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Living on a hill months later was she?

They brought body finder Krugel over to PDL!

It was a DREAM.  Dreams tend not to be 100% rational.   What is entirely irrational in my view is that an investigative team should place such importance on a dream had by a virtually hysterical mother of a missing child. 

[Brietta]

315? The distance is only 2.2 miles.



5 min (3.6 km) via EM1293 and N270

The surveillance files certainly do appear to throw up a few anomalies such as ...
Snip
It is plausible that the communications made at 16:43:53 and 16:46:37 had been made when Gerald's phone was on the fringe of the coverage area between the two antennae, because it would not be possible to cover the distance of approximately 10.5 km that separates these two locations in only 2.44 minutes, unless he had travelled at 315 km/h.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11664.msg608900#msg608900

As the files say ... 315 km/h in perhaps a little hiccup between antennae.

[Miss Taken Identity]

It was a DREAM.  Dreams tend not to be 100% rational.   What is entirely irrational in my view is that an investigative team should place such importance on a dream had by a virtually hysterical mother of a missing child.

Subliminal message perhaps. Why would she be crying to the police officer on the phone if it was 'only a dream'.

[pathfinder73]

It was a DREAM.  Dreams tend not to be 100% rational.   What is entirely irrational in my view is that an investigative team should place such importance on a dream had by a virtually hysterical mother of a missing child. 

She shouldn't have told the police. As she did she thought it was important!

She denied that dream about Madeleine happened in her book!

“On the night of 1 September I dreamed about Madeleine for the first time in four months…it was such a dreadful experience…Although I was dreaming, I could feel her. It was as if parts of my body that had been hibernating for months suddenly began to stir. I could sense the cold, dark days lifting as I luxuriated in warmth and light. And Madeleine was holding me, her little arms wrapped tightly round me, and it felt so good, I could smell her, I could feel her with every one of my senses as I soaked up this heavenly moment. My Madeleine. I wanted to stay like this for ever. And then I woke up. Ice began to course through my body, driving out every endorphin and remnant of warmth. I didn’t understand. What was happening? How could this be? I could still feel her! A heavy boot connected with my stomach and the ache in my chest was worse than I’d known it. I was struggling for breath, almost as if I were being strangled. Please God, don’t let her go! Stay with me, Madeleine. Please stay with me. Don’t go - stay with Mummy. Please, sweetheart, hold on. I love you so much. I started to cry. The crying built into seismic sobs. An unearthly sound, like the howl of a wounded animal, was coming out of my mouth. The crushing pain in my chest intensified to the point where I thought I was going to die. I’d been with her. And then she was gone. Again”.

[Brietta]

She shouldn't have told the police. As she did she thought it was important!

She denied that dream about Madeleine happened in her book!

“On the night of 1 September I dreamed about Madeleine for the first time in four months…it was such a dreadful experience…Although I was dreaming, I could feel her. It was as if parts of my body that had been hibernating for months suddenly began to stir. I could sense the cold, dark days lifting as I luxuriated in warmth and light. And Madeleine was holding me, her little arms wrapped tightly round me, and it felt so good, I could smell her, I could feel her with every one of my senses as I soaked up this heavenly moment. My Madeleine. I wanted to stay like this for ever. And then I woke up. Ice began to course through my body, driving out every endorphin and remnant of warmth. I didn’t understand. What was happening? How could this be? I could still feel her! A heavy boot connected with my stomach and the ache in my chest was worse than I’d known it. I was struggling for breath, almost as if I were being strangled. Please God, don’t let her go! Stay with me, Madeleine. Please stay with me. Don’t go - stay with Mummy. Please, sweetheart, hold on. I love you so much. I started to cry. The crying built into seismic sobs. An unearthly sound, like the howl of a wounded animal, was coming out of my mouth. The crushing pain in my chest intensified to the point where I thought I was going to die. I’d been with her. And then she was gone. Again”.

That was Kate's dream.  It doesn't come close to the one Paiva alleged.

Anyway ... dreams are off topic on this thread ... Vila do Bispo in West Portugal becomes a place of interest for the second time.

[John]

So what took one or both parents to Vila do Bispo on two consecutive days, namely 26th and 27th July 2007?

[pathfinder73]

The surveillance files certainly do appear to throw up a few anomalies such as ...
Snip
It is plausible that the communications made at 16:43:53 and 16:46:37 had been made when Gerald's phone was on the fringe of the coverage area between the two antennae, because it would not be possible to cover the distance of approximately 10.5 km that separates these two locations in only 2.44 minutes, unless he had travelled at 315 km/h.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11664.msg608900#msg608900

As the files say ... 315 km/h in perhaps a little hiccup between antennae.

What is the source of your times?

26 July 2007

16:41:06 Faro Airport
17:31:23 Pedra de Agua
17:32:27 Boliqueime
19:05:21 Vila do Bispo
19:10:35 Budens
19:49:38 Praia da Luz

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PHONE_TEXTS.htm

[pathfinder73]

So what took one or both parents to Vila do Bispo on two consecutive days, namely 26th and 27th July 2007?

Yes the same area and to Sagres.

On 27th [the phone] leaves in the direction of Sagres. On the way to this town a contact is registered at 17:48:50 with the antenna "Budens". In the locality, supposedly the destination, it activated the antenna with that name [Sagres] at 18:47:32. According to the records it comes back to the village of Luz, the first antenna being activated is "Praia da Luz Centre" at 20:42:25.

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PHONE_TEXTS.htm

[John]

Activations of the mobile phone (44)790-310-8397; Owned/used by KATE MARIE HEALY [McCann].


"On 27 the records again indicate a new exit to the coverage area of the antenna called "Raposeira 1" (close to Vila do Bispo).

The first record on this antenna occurs at 16:33:13 and the last was at 18:59:22.

The return to Luz happened at 19:54:23.

If we compare the records of the mobile phone of Gerald, one can infer that on this journey he had not accompanied his wife, given that at 16:33:41 his mobile phone has an entry on one of the antennae of Luz.

However it is probable that that they had met later."

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PHONE_TEXTS.htm

[Vertigo Swirl]

Subliminal message perhaps. Why would she be crying to the police officer on the phone if it was 'only a dream'.

She was crying and it was only a dream, but if you’re a mother and you have a vivid dream about your missing child and you think (irrationally) that it might be significant and you have no one else to turn to at that moment, why not share that experience with a person you consider to be on your side and who you believe may be able to help?

[Vertigo Swirl]

So what took one or both parents to Vila do Bispo on two consecutive days, namely 26th and 27th July 2007?

How could it be relevant to the investigation into Madeleine’s whereabouts?

[John]

How could it be relevant to the investigation into Madeleine’s whereabouts?

I believe it to be quite a coincidence that out of the entire country, the police are searching wells in a small town in the Western Algarve where both the McCanns and the new chief suspect Christian Brueckner spent time.