Author Topic: Vila do Bispo in West Portugal becomes a place of interest for the second time.  (Read 44107 times)

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Offline Gertrude

Sandra Felgueiras is the journalist who believed amaral and then realised he had lied to her over the McCann case

And....she has an opinion, doesn't mean it's right.

Some have even said she is biased against him because her mother, a politician was done for fraud. Who knows? I don't trust reports based on anonymous sources very much.

Offline Mr Gray

That's her opinion isn't it? No direct quotes from police. So I remain sceptical it has anything to do with the McCann case.

Another thing...he had wells at his former homes but the police are not searching those ones? Why wouldn't they. It would be like going to Fred West's house and deciding not to dig in the cellar.
Your original post was taht this was an invention of the UK press...are you backtracking now..
I would say you remain in denial rather than sceptical.. They may be acting on intelligence and may well search the wells at and near his home

Offline Vertigo Swirl

You can believe anything you like, but imo relying on press reports is naive.
Refusing to accept that the press report real live news events is pretty stupid imo.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

And....she has an opinion, doesn't mean it's right.

Some have even said she is biased against him because her mother, a politician was done for fraud. Who knows? I don't trust reports based on anonymous sources very much.

I think you are entering conspiracy territory....Sandra Felgueiras accused amaral live on TV of lying to her...he does haveb a conviction for it

Offline VIXTE

You can believe anything you like, but imo relying on press reports is naive.

I participated in a  big project on fake news, my dear. I am even teaching the subject  ?>)()<

Offline Vertigo Swirl

I think you are entering conspiracy territory....Sandra Felgueiras accused amaral live on TV of lying to her...he does haveb a conviction for it
Has he sued her yet?  If not she must be telling the truth (this is sceptic logic btw).
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Gertrude

https://expresso.pt/sociedade/2020-07-11-Autoridades-procuram-corpo-de-Maddie-em-tres-pocos
https://www.dn.pt/pais/buscas-em-pocos-nao-encontram-maddie-12415565.html
https://www.rtp.pt/noticias/pais/judiciaria-procura-corpo-de-madeleine-mccann-no-algarve_v1244051

They are all saying PJ is searching for Maddie and connected to CB

And this is what RTP ( government owned TV) is saying:
RTP knows that searches have already been carried out in Vila do Bispo. The PJ searched for the body of the English child inside wells. Madeleine Maccan disappeared 13 years ago in Praia da Luz. The Friday at 9 program, meanwhile, discovered more clues that make it increasingly plausible that German Christian Bruckner is the perpetrator of this crime.

And yet, another reporter, says RTP have not been 'catagoric'.

''The latest searches in wells near beaches around Vila do Bispo that the now 43-year-old is said to have frequented close to the time that Madeleine went missing, appear not to have revealed any human remains.

However different sources are asserting different ‘truths’.

For example, British online The World News, claims “Portuguese police say they now have “fundamental evidence” Madeleine McCann is dead”.

Portuguese state broadcaster RTP is cited as the source – but news outlets here are nothing like as ‘categoric’.

Indeed, it’s difficult to see where The World News gets its information – certainly not from RTP – though the channel’s Sexta às 9 investigative programme admits its own reporters have “found new leads that make it more plausible that Christian Brückner was the author of this crime”.

Again, this is said with reference to alleged sex ‘crimes’ – none of which have involved children of Madeleine’s age.

In every case, the incidents cited by Sexta às 9 have been with young adolescents.''

https://www.portugalresident.com/pj-police-search-three-wells-in-vila-do-bispo-as-new-revelations-continue-to-focus-on-jailed-pedophile/
« Last Edit: July 13, 2020, 09:59:32 PM by Gertrude »

Offline Gertrude

Your original post was taht this was an invention of the UK press...are you backtracking now..
I would say you remain in denial rather than sceptical.. They may be acting on intelligence and may well search the wells at and near his home

No, I never said the press invented the searches and I have not backtracked. There is no direct quote from any police and Sandra hasn't given one so it's her opinion.

 Even you just said 'may' as in nothing is known for sure. I don't see how that's denial.

Offline Mr Gray

And yet, another reporter, says she's RTP have not been 'catagoric'.

''The latest searches in wells near beaches around Vila do Bispo that the now 43-year-old is said to have frequented close to the time that Madeleine went missing, appear not to have revealed any human remains.

However different sources are asserting different ‘truths’.

For example, British online The World News, claims “Portuguese police say they now have “fundamental evidence” Madeleine McCann is dead”.

Portuguese state broadcaster RTP is cited as the source – but news outlets here are nothing like as ‘categoric’.

Indeed, it’s difficult to see where The World News gets its information – certainly not from RTP – though the channel’s Sexta às 9 investigative programme admits its own reporters have “found new leads that make it more plausible that Christian Brückner was the author of this crime”.

Again, this is said with reference to alleged sex ‘crimes’ – none of which have involved children of Madeleine’s age.

In every case, the incidents cited by Sexta às 9 have been with young adolescents.''

https://www.portugalresident.com/pj-police-search-three-wells-in-vila-do-bispo-as-new-revelations-continue-to-focus-on-jailed-pedophile/

as I said you appear to be in total denial.....quite a few sceptics are. We will know soon enough.

Do you accept the searches may be related to Breukner or is your mind totally closed

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Refusing to accept that the press report real live news events is pretty stupid imo.

So you accepted it when the media initially reported MM's blood/DNA was found in the apartment?  *&^^&

Offline Mr Gray

No, I never said the press invented the searches and I have not backtracked. There is no direct quote from any police and Sandra hasn't given one so it's her opinion.

 Even you just said 'may' as in nothing is known for sure. I don't see how that's denial.

do you deny this too...
Seems to me like the UK media heard rumours of a search and have jumped to the conclusion it's to find a body.

Offline Mr Gray

So you accepted it when the media initially reported MM's blood/DNA was found in the apartment?  *&^^&


Anyone who accepted that at face value had to be daft

Offline Gertrude

do you deny this too...
Seems to me like the UK media heard rumours of a search and have jumped to the conclusion it's to find a body.

That's my opinion based on the facts that a man was murdered in Villa Bispo a couple of weeks before and the fact there is no official source of what the well searches are about.

It's an opinion just like Sandra's.  I'm sure just a few weeks ago you wouldn't accept any news report I cited even the ones with direct quotes from police. Now an opinion is fine if it's a journalist you like?

Offline Mr Gray

That's my opinion based on the facts that a man was murdered in Villa Bispo a couple of weeks before and the fact there is no official source of what the well searches are about.

It's an opinion just like Sandra's.  I'm sure just a few weeks ago you wouldn't accept any news report I cited even the ones with direct quotes from police. Now an opinion is fine if it's a journalist you like?

Its not just one journalist.....you need to wake up. Again ...third time...do you accept these searches could relate to Breukner...or is your mind totally closed as I suspect


Could you provide  acite for the news report I would not accept....I think you may be twisting the facts

Offline VIXTE

And yet, another reporter, says RTP have not been 'catagoric'.

''The latest searches in wells near beaches around Vila do Bispo that the now 43-year-old is said to have frequented close to the time that Madeleine went missing, appear not to have revealed any human remains.

However different sources are asserting different ‘truths’.

For example, British online The World News, claims “Portuguese police say they now have “fundamental evidence” Madeleine McCann is dead”.

Portuguese state broadcaster RTP is cited as the source – but news outlets here are nothing like as ‘categoric’.

Indeed, it’s difficult to see where The World News gets its information – certainly not from RTP – though the channel’s Sexta às 9 investigative programme admits its own reporters have “found new leads that make it more plausible that Christian Brückner was the author of this crime”.

Again, this is said with reference to alleged sex ‘crimes’ – none of which have involved children of Madeleine’s age.

In every case, the incidents cited by Sexta às 9 have been with young adolescents.''

https://www.portugalresident.com/pj-police-search-three-wells-in-vila-do-bispo-as-new-revelations-continue-to-focus-on-jailed-pedophile/

So you think CB has no history of child abuse?
You don't trust the German prosecutor's words?
Nor the judges who prosecuted him earlier for child abuse?