“A Laughable Story”

[carlymichelle]

Why mention 'certain opinions' then? I'm not worried by criticism of other's views, it's criticism of other's characters and morality which I find distasteful.

right they make it totally personal dont they

[faithlilly]

I was actually referring to the ultimate researchers into the truth of Madeleine's disappearance.
Those on the CMOMM......those who know the truth and who "research" birth certificates, marriage certificates and write letters to the employers of any of Madeleine's family or friends.

Apologosies I didn’t realise you were ignoring the supporters who ‘research’ electoral rolls, LinkedIn and write letters to people’s employers in an attempt  to destroy their  lives and careers for no other reason than that they think the parents are guilty.

[Mr Gray]

I can only speak for myself and I think they are entitled to believe in the McCanns if they want to. What they aren't entitled to do is criticise anyone who doesn't share their views and suggest that they are lacking in some way. I don't care what they think of me, because I know it's false, but I find their opinions of Portugal, their Judiciary and their police forces quite distasteful.

I  have every right to criticise whoever I like within the limits of the law......I have every right to criticise the portuguese police and judicial system......I have never criticised portugal or the portuguese people...you have no right to try and limit my criticism

[Mr Gray]

right they make it totally personal dont they

have you forgot you referred to my children just a few days ago...that is you being personal

[carlymichelle]

Apologosies I didn’t realise you were ignoring the supporters who ‘research’ electoral rolls, LinkedIn and write letters to people’s employers in an attempt  to destroy their  lives and careers for no other reason than that they think the parents are guilty.

or  steal personal  photos off  facebooks

[faithlilly]

I have seen you mention this incident before and wondered at the time how you became aware of it. 

How did the recipient or the recipient's manager know who you were and how to contact you?

Were they better 'researchers' than "the supporter" who managed to miss you so entirely to target them instead of you?

The supporter gave me the details of the person she thought I was and it was an actual person. The supporter also said that they were going to contact the poor girl’s employer. As I knew people the supporter had done this to in the past I had no reason to doubt them.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Why mention 'certain opinions' then? I'm not worried by criticism of other's views, it's criticism of other's characters and morality which I find distasteful.

Obviously brcause I don’t find ALL opinions worthy of criticism!  I’m glad we’ve settled this now, so that if someone writes something sexist, racist, bonkers, delusional, hypocritical, cruel, etc I know I AM entitled to criticise those views.  Right?

[faithlilly]

or  steal personal  photos off  facebooks

Indeed. It really is a rather sh*tty business.

[Mr Gray]

Accepting the open shutters and window as a fact involves believing in the McCann's truthfulness, because there's no independent testimony.

Who said the open window is  a fact....I don't know its a fact but I think its highly likely to be true based on other supporting evidence.

You show  a certain naievety in the way justice works. The whole justice system is not based on facts but on beleiving who is telling the truth....the jury decides that based on the evidence. Even  a guilty or not guilty verdict is not  a true statement of guilt or innocence

You and other sceptics have no problem with amaral and his team stating as a fact that the alerts confirmed the presence of  abody in 5a which they patently don't. The fact that you are prepared to ignore this and criticise others is what leads me to question your understanding of evidence and credibility.

[carlymichelle]

Indeed. It really is a rather sh*tty business.

the mcanns are adults you have to wonder why supporters  think the mcanns need so much coddeling  and protecting

[Mr Gray]

the mcanns are adults you have to wonder why supporters  think the mcanns need so much coddeling  and protecting

You really don't understand...no one is protecting the McCanns ...we are discussing the case and giving our views

[Vertigo Swirl]

You really don't understand...no one is protecting the McCanns ...we are discussing the case and giving our views

Quite right.  The McCanns have no need of our protection but some people still cling onto the belief that we do this because we’re besotted by them, or paid to do it.  So childish!

[faithlilly]

the mcanns are adults you have to wonder why supporters  think the mcanns need so much coddeling  and protecting

I think it’s more psychologically complex than that.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I often wonder what motivates sceptics to log on every day for 13 yearsm trying to persuade anyone who will listen that two people they have nothing to do with and have never met are criminals evading justice.  I find that quite psychologically interesting.

[carlymichelle]

I think it’s more psychologically complex than that.

spme have admitted they did  what the mcanns did themselves    so maybe they feel guilty??