“A Laughable Story”

[Vertigo Swirl]

A direct quote from the PJ that they are investigating an abduction would be helpful.

We’ve had a direct quote from the Pj  that the parents are not suspects but that’s not good enough for you, nor would a direct quote saying they were investigating an abduction.  You’d simply claim then that the Pj were saying one thing and doing another.  Admit it!

[G-Unit]

We’ve had a direct quote from the Pj  that the parents are not suspects but that’s not good enough for you, nor would a direct quote saying they were investigating an abduction.  You’d simply claim then that the Pj were saying one thing and doing another.  Admit it!

I have never denied what Pedro do Carmo said three years ago. Rather than speculating about my reaction just supply the evidence and see what I say. In my opinion you can't.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I have never denied what Pedro do Carmo said three years ago. Rather than speculating about my reaction just supply the evidence and see what I say. In my opinion you can't.

The de Carmo quote IS the evidence only you can’t see it.  If the parents AREN’T suspects then what theory are the PJ investigating if not a stranger abduction?

[faithlilly]

I have never denied what Pedro do Carmo said three years ago. Rather than speculating about my reaction just supply the evidence and see what I say. In my opinion you can't.

In fact Wolters, who most supporters believe has his finger on the pulse of what is happening in the case, has said that the Portuguese still believe that the parents are responsible for the disappearance.

From the Telegraph.

 "I think the Portuguese officials still think that Maddie's parents are responsible for her disappearance." A senior source in the Portuguese police yesterday said that they are not searching any of the suspect's former homes until they get a request from Germany. "We will do what they say," he said.

[Eleanor]

I have never denied what Pedro do Carmo said three years ago. Rather than speculating about my reaction just supply the evidence and see what I say. In my opinion you can't.

This doesn't make sense.  If Pedro do Carmo said it what evidence is there to supply?

[Eleanor]

In fact Wolters, who most supporters believe has his finger on the pulse of what is happening in the case, has said that the Portuguese still believe that the parents are responsible for the disappearance.

From the Telegraph.

 "I think the Portuguese officials still think that Maddie's parents are responsible for her disappearance." A senior source in the Portuguese police yesterday said that they are not searching any of the suspect's former homes until they get a request from Germany. "We will do what they say," he said.

Does this mean that The PJ are now prepared to do as they are told by The German Police?

[sadie]

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Bushra had no resemblance whatsoever to Madeleine McCann, neither did the older girl walking in front have any resemblance to the murdered Portuguese child Joana Cipriano.

John, we can all see when comparing the photos of Madeleine and Bushra that they bear no resemblance to each other and that is why everyone can see that the picture number 2 of Bushra is completely contrived .. a false representation of Madeleine  … it is so blindingly obvious.

And the carriers are two different people.  The wo/man carrying Madeleine has no waist but Bushras mum has a womanly waist.  The striped over-skirt fit around Bushras mum waist easily.   It doesn't even meet around the wo/mans waist carrying Madeleine.   
And see the distress that the Bushra weighted sling is causing to Bushras mums upper level boobs.  The lighter Madeleine weighted sling makes no impression on the wo/man carrying her.  She is lighter of course but there is a false womans front under that blouse IMO.  Such false boobs can be bought

Now with Joana* walking in front of the group, it is important for any avid Amaral supporters that the young walking girl be denied as being Joana .  Cos it shows

1) that Joana is still alive;
2) that Amaral got it wrong;
3) and there is even a question mark over the Judge in the case that found against Leonor and Joao, then incarcerated them both for about 16 years
4)  It adds weight to the fact that almost certainly with Joana being there, then the little girl being carried is almost 100% certainly Madeleine
5)  That in all probability there is a place near Zinat that abducted children are kept, in some cases to 'pleasure' Paedophiles , but in Madeleines and probably Joanas case to keep them for their bloodlines maybe.   So part of a trafficking set up in all likelihood.

Joana comes
from at least one historically very upper class bloodline.  The Ciprianos are a big name in Italy.


This is all IMO but I will guarantee that it was not Bushra on her mothers back in the original photo at Zinat; it was Madeleine … and neither do I think the wo/man carrying Madeleine was female.


My main suspect is a great JOKER.

[Mr Gray]

You are posting your opinion as fact on many occasions and you are unable to provided verification of what you post.

Nothing to do with me.  Merely forum rules which you have agreed to abide by.  Another protocol which you appear to be in ignorance of is not to criticise moderators.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Does this mean that The PJ are now prepared to do as they are told by The German Police?

As they were involved in searching numerous wells associated with CB the answer to that would seem to be “yes”. 

[Myster]

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John, we can all see when comparing the photos of Madeleine and Bushra that they bear no resemblance to each other and that is why everyone can see that the picture number 2 of Bushra is completely contrived .. a false representation of Madeleine  … it is so blindingly obvious.

And the carriers are two different people.  The wo/man carrying Madeleine has no waist but Bushras mum has a womanly waist.  The striped over-skirt fit around Bushras mum waist easily.   It doesn't even meet around the wo/mans waist carrying Madeleine.   
And see the distress that the Bushra weighted sling is causing to Bushras mums upper level boobs.  The lighter Madeleine weighted sling makes no impression on the wo/man carrying her.  She is lighter of course but there is a false womans front under that blouse IMO.  Such false boobs can be bought

Now with Joana* walking in front of the group, it is important for any avid Amaral supporters that the young walking girl be denied as being Joana .  Cos it shows

1) that Joana is still alive;
2) that Amaral got it wrong;
3) and there is even a question mark over the Judge in the case that found against Leonor and Joao, then incarcerated them both for about 16 years
4)  It adds weight to the fact that almost certainly with Joana being there, then the little girl being carried is almost 100% certainly Madeleine
5)  That in all probability there is a place near Zinat that abducted children are kept, in some cases to 'pleasure' Paedophiles , but in Madeleines and probably Joanas case to keep them for their bloodlines maybe.   So part of a trafficking set up in all likelihood.

Joana comes
from at least one historically very upper class bloodline.  The Ciprianos are a big name in Italy.


This is all IMO but I will guarantee that it was not Bushra on her mothers back in the original photo at Zinat; it was Madeleine … and neither do I think the wo/man carrying Madeleine was female.


My main suspect is a great JOKER.

Sadie, your guarantee is well past its redeem-by date.  It's Bushra and the same woman carrier in both photos..


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[Brietta]

Does this mean that The PJ are now prepared to do as they are told by The German Police?

That really is "a laughable story".

The PJ are as deeply into this investigation as are the other two national police forces involved and are doing their part.

The fact is it is all being done quietly which might be frustrating for us armchair detectives but not for the ends of Justice.

What's the betting they have plugged the leak direct line to Amaral to ensure secrecy of justice as per Portuguese law.

[kizzy]

That really is "a laughable story".

The PJ are as deeply into this investigation as are the other two national police forces involved and are doing their part.

The fact is it is all being done quietly which might be frustrating for us armchair detectives but not for the ends of Justice.

What's the betting they have plugged the leak direct line to Amaral to ensure secrecy of justice as per Portuguese law.

The fact is it is all being done quietly

Why should that be a true fact......its just guess work on your part IMO

Because the fact could be they are doing nothing at all.

[faithlilly]

Does this mean that The PJ are now prepared to do as they are told by The German Police?

I think that means that the Portuguese have not excluded the parents as suspects and as they have primacy in this case.....well you know the rest.

[G-Unit]

Does this mean that The PJ are now prepared to do as they are told by The German Police?

The word you need is REQUESTED. Portugal responds to International Letters of Request. They have responded to such requests by the UK, for example, just as the UK have responded to their ILOR's.

[Brietta]

I think that means that the Portuguese have not excluded the parents as suspects and as they have primacy in this case.....well you know the rest.