“A Laughable Story”

[Eleanor]

I think that means that the Portuguese have not excluded the parents as suspects and as they have primacy in this case.....well you know the rest.

Now there's a thought.  There's nothing like beating a dead horse, or dog for that matter.

[Eleanor]

The word you need is REQUESTED. Portugal responds to International Letters of Request. They have responded to such requests by the UK, for example, just as the UK have responded to their ILOR's.

The PJ are now prepared to do as they are requested to do by The German Police.

As a matter of interest, can The PJ refuse?

[Brietta]

The word you need is REQUESTED. Portugal responds to International Letters of Request. They have responded to such requests by the UK, for example, just as the UK have responded to their ILOR's.

Didn't the Portuguese refuse to accede to such communications from Operation Grange on more than a few occasions when it came up their hump?

What record is there of such requests being made recently Germany~Portugal???  Brueckner's lawyer seems to have some complaints regarding paperwork involving more than one European country if memory serves me well

[G-Unit]

As they were involved in searching numerous wells associated with CB the answer to that would seem to be “yes”.

It was anunconfirmed rumour that the three wells searched were associated with CB. It was also rumoured that another twenty were to be searched, but it hasn't happened. Accepting newspaper stories as factual should be avoided imo.

[kizzy]

They haven't been ruled out have they ...the case was shelved not closed.

Just not enough evidence not non it seems.

[Brietta]

It was anunconfirmed rumour that the three wells searched were associated with CB. It was also rumoured that another twenty were to be searched, but it hasn't happened. Accepting newspaper stories as factual should be avoided imo.

PJ made new searches for Maddie in three wells in the Algarve in recent weeks
Elements were collected that indicate the possible intervention of the German suspect in the disappearance of the English child.
Rui Pando Gomes
July 10, 2020
The Judiciary Police (PJ) searched for Madeleine McCann's body in three water wells located in rural areas in the municipality of Vila do Bispo.

The searches, which the CM found out, were carried out in recent weeks and are part of a list of measures developed by the Portuguese police, after the German Christian Brueckner became the main suspect in the disappearance of the English child, in Praia da Luz, in Lagos in 2007.

The CM knows that the searches in the wells were carried out with the support of a team of firemen specialized in search and rescue, which included divers.

According to CM , the PJ investigators found no trace of Maddie.

Other investigations have already been carried out, namely the questioning of witnesses, in conjunction with the German police BKA and the English Metropolitan Police, which share information to carry out investigative and expert acts, in Portugal and abroad.

The CM knows that elements have been collected that indicate the possible intervention of the German suspect in the disappearance of the English child.

https://www.cmjornal.pt/portugal/detalhe/pj-fez-novas-buscas-por-maddie-em-tres-pocos-no-algarve-nas-ultimas-semanas-veja-esta-noite-no-programa-rua-segura-na-cmtv


Much as it goes against your grain I don't think the Judicial Police are allowing the British or the German police to rampage through Portugal without their say-so and involvement.

They are sharing information and cooperating and the press are working on the information they have which I suggest without Amaral's leaks to the press would be nothing.

[Eleanor]

It was anunconfirmed rumour that the three wells searched were associated with CB. It was also rumoured that another twenty were to be searched, but it hasn't happened. Accepting newspaper stories as factual should be avoided imo.

Ah Yes, that one at Ibispo was searched because The McCanns seem to have been there.  So there you go.  The McCanns done it.

All back on track.  Okay.

[G-Unit]

The PJ are now prepared to do as they are requested to do by The German Police.

As a matter of interest, can The PJ refuse?

The UK refused a request by Portugal, as I recall. It's all done in accordance with the 1959 Council of Europe Convention on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters, which you can learn about here;

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=LEGISSUM%3Al33108#:~:text=The%20convention%20aims%20to%20encourage,and%20efficiency%20of%20judicial%20cooperation.&text=Requests%20must%20be%20made%20in,by%20the%20national%20judicial%20authorities.

[Brietta]

They haven't been ruled out have they ...the case was shelved not closed.

Just not enough evidence not non it seems.

I suggest you drop a line to Robert Murat's lawyers with exactly that idiotic information and let the forum know exactly how you get on with it.

[Eleanor]

The UK refused a request by Portugal, as I recall. It's all done in accordance with the 1959 Council of Europe Convention on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters, which you can learn about here;

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=LEGISSUM%3Al33108#:~:text=The%20convention%20aims%20to%20encourage,and%20efficiency%20of%20judicial%20cooperation.&text=Requests%20must%20be%20made%20in,by%20the%20national%20judicial%20authorities.

Was that to do with The PJ forgetting that The Smith Family live in Southern Ireland?

[G-Unit]

Ah Yes, that one at Ibispo was searched because The McCanns seem to have been there.  So there you go.  The McCanns done it.

All back on track.  Okay.

According to another unconfirmed rumour the wells were searched in connection with the death of a local man.

[Mr Gray]

Can any Portuguese  speakers translate a**e and elbow for me so I can respond to the post re the Portuguese  investigation

[Brietta]

The UK refused a request by Portugal, as I recall. It's all done in accordance with the 1959 Council of Europe Convention on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters, which you can learn about here;

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=LEGISSUM%3Al33108#:~:text=The%20convention%20aims%20to%20encourage,and%20efficiency%20of%20judicial%20cooperation.&text=Requests%20must%20be%20made%20in,by%20the%20national%20judicial%20authorities.

Totally laughable ... in my opinion ... and sooooooooooooooooo yesterday's news.  All but a few diehards have progressed way beyond that point ... don't you think it is time to play catch-up with current affairs.

[kizzy]

I suggest you drop a line to Robert Murat's lawyers with exactly that idiotic information and let the forum know exactly how you get on with it.

Why

[Brietta]

According to another unconfirmed rumour the wells were searched in connection with the death of a local man.

                 Didn't you start that one ? 
I think you might have, unless you can point to an unreliable press report to the contrary.