“A Laughable Story”

[Mr Gray]

It's the only possible scenario that the facts fit but then we all know that if that is what happened then the blame reverts straight back on the parents.

It isn't the only scenario that the facts fit.. There are several  scenarios  that the facts could fit

[carlymichelle]

It's the only possible scenario that the facts fit but then we all know that if that is what happened then the blame reverts straight back on the parents.

3 year olds  can open doors  my  2 year old niece  can open doors if they are unlocked  im  sure a nearly  4 year old could  easily open doors and wander outside  also  most nearly  4 year olds  can  climb  up and down stairs etc

[G-Unit]

Without the Scoping Exercise there would be no Operation Grange and no active official search conducted for Madeleine McCann since the archiving of her case in 2008 until the present day.

I can appreciate although I do not understand, the chagrin that situation (the continued and continuing search for Madeleine) has caused some.

I don't believe you have any evidence to support your opinion.

[G-Unit]

No they didnt....read it again. they said they WERENT ruled out by the archiving despatch..that was 2008...not that they havent been ruled out2017...i actually thought you understood that

If they weren't ruled out at the end of the first investigation they are still in the same position today imo.

[Mr Gray]

If they weren't ruled out at the end of the first investigation they are still in the same position today imo.

so just your opinion now.

so at least you now accept that the SC were referring to a specific point in the investigation...IMO...the statemnet by both SY...Da Carmo...rules them out..but there is no real legal definition of ruling out so its not really an imprtant point

[Vertigo Swirl]

OG was set up to help the McCanns, so it wasn't intended to be completely neutral.

Three times I have asked G-Unit for a cite to back up the assertion above and three times I have been completely ignored and no cite has been forthcoming. 
Can another Mod kindly explain if moderators are now no longer obliged to respond to requests for cites? 

[Vertigo Swirl]

It's the only possible scenario that the facts fit but then we all know that if that is what happened then the blame reverts straight back on the parents.

it really isn't and it really, really doesn't. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

I don't believe you have any evidence to support your opinion.

I don't believe you have a cite for "Operation Grange was set up to help the McCanns" and that is why you have repeatedly ignored my request for one.

[Mr Gray]

Three times I have asked G-Unit for a cite to back up the assertion above and three times I have been completely ignored and no cite has been forthcoming. 
Can another Mod kindly explain if moderators are now no longer obliged to respond to requests for cites?

it seems to me that a couple mods who are abusing their position by posting opinion as fact and not giving cites. this post breaks the rules but why should that be an issue when mods are blatantly breaking the rules.
They understand that other mods wont correct them...a bit pathetic really

[Vertigo Swirl]

If they weren't ruled out at the end of the first investigation they are still in the same position today imo.

Same goes for Murat then.  Still a suspect after all these years despite the fact he obviously isn't. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

it seems to me that a couple mods who are abusing their position by posting opinion as fact and not giving cites. this post breaks the rules but why should that be an issue when mods are blatantly breaking the rules.
They understand that other mods wont correct them...a bit pathetic really

Exactly, it's arrogant and rude as well.

[pathfinder73]

Clue - it is called the Disappearance of MM not abduction. All investigations start from zero and nobody is ruled out. Some don't want a circus. Another clue.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Clue - it is called the Disappearance of MM not abduction. All investigations start from zero and nobody is ruled out. Some don't want a circus. Another clue.

What is called "The Disappearance of MM"?  I wasn't aware this case had an official, immutable title.

[Mr Gray]

Exactly, it's arrogant and rude as well.

It actually makes the whole...obey the rules...thing look a bit silly

[Brietta]

I don't believe you have any evidence to support your opinion.

The review undertaken by Scotland Yard and the wholly independent review carried out in Portugal by the investigative Policia Judiciaria resulted in action being recommended by both to reopen Madeleine's case.

That is the fact of the matter and I am quite content with that. 
If you are content to assume the 2010 scoping exercise which was set up to study the feasibility of such a review played no part in the English process in opening one ... fine by me, but I really do not share your belief that it didn't.