Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB

[G-Unit]

Sorry, but what a load of BS.

No child neglect there.  They were on Ocean Club premises, within sight of 5A and only 50 metres away crow flies.  And 70+ metres away walking running if needed.  Also checking at more regular intervals than half hourly ones.    Much better than Butlins who had a cyclist ride round at intervals, listening at the window/door

It was like us being in our then back garden, chatting to our neighbours over the fence.
Just like someone on a camping/caravaning  site may be chatting/having a barby  with their neighbours 50 metres away

Nobody, I repeat nobody, could anticipate what happened to Madeleine THEN.   After Madeleine is a different scenario.

Perhaps your understanding will increase and you will mellow with age and life experience.   Do hope so.

It doesn't matter how much you try to excuse it, who else did it, how and where they did it....IT'S STILL WRONG!!

Infants and young children 0-3 years old should never be left alone...this applies also in your car while you run into the shops.
https://www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/in-the-home/home-alone/

[Mr Gray]

It doesn't matter how much you try to excuse it, who else did it, how and where they did it....IT'S STILL WRONG!!

Infants and young children 0-3 years old should never be left alone...this applies also in your car while you run into the shops.
https://www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/in-the-home/home-alone/

thats a reccomnedation not a law

[The General]

Sorry, but what a load of BS.

No child neglect there.  They were on Ocean Club premises, within sight of 5A and only 50 metres away crow flies.  And 70+ metres away walking running if needed.  Also checking at more regular intervals than half hourly ones.    Much better than Butlins who had a cyclist ride round at intervals, listening at the window/door

It was like us being in our then back garden, chatting to our neighbours over the fence.
Just like someone on a camping/caravaning  site may be chatting/having a barby  with their neighbours 50 metres away

Nobody, I repeat nobody, could anticipate what happened to Madeleine THEN.   After Madeleine is a different scenario.

Perhaps your understanding will increase and you will mellow with age and life experience.   Do hope so.

No.
And again, no.
I would NEVER leave a child alone in a hotel room and b....r off to go and eat and drink with friends. Never. Not even with a listening service. Not even with a robust (or otherwise) checking system.
NEVER. No excuse and there never will be.
Nobody could anticipate? The mode of potential harm is irrelevant. Most parents would be able to come up with 30 reasons not to go out on the sauce with their mates and leave the kids to fend for themselves. It would appear that the McCann's only needed one excuse to do the opposite.
Call me what you like, I don't care, but I wouldn't even lock (yes, lock) a child in a hotel room to nip down to reception to pick something up or run an errand. No chance. Not even if they were asleep. Ain't happening. 3 kids under 4? That's unthinkable for me.
And as for the specific scenario, that's just child cruelty, particularly knowing that they'd been crying for their mum. Utterly pitiful.
So quit with your accusations of bullshit; I call bullshit on your feeble attempts to mitigate neglectful behaviour.
....and how do you control 3 under 4's when you're not there for hours on end?

[Lace]

Shortly after that, the McCanns had got sufficient funds organised to afford top lawyers in both Britain and Portugal. Again, how lawyers could help to ‘find Madeleine’ is not clear.

It seems When the McCanns were about to made suspects in the investigation of Maddies disappearance, they rushed to hire the Uk top extradition lawyer, Michael Caplan Q.C.,

IMO, as well as ohers ‘innocent’ parents would not need a team of lawyers out with them within 48 hours, nor would they need Britain’s top extradition lawyers. If they had done nothing wrong,

What are you talking about?   The McCann's didn't have lawyers within 48 hours.   The got a lawyer for the search fund and then to sue people who were telling lies about them,  that doesn't make them guilty of anything.

[kizzy]

thats a reccomnedation not a law

OFGS.

were children/babies are concerned every recommendation should be taken very seriously for their safety.

[Mr Gray]

OFGS.

were children/babies are concerned every recommendation should be taken very seriously for their safety.

Im pointing out  af fact...not making any judgement...

[kizzy]

What are you talking about?   The McCann's didn't have lawyers within 48 hours.   The got a lawyer for the search fund and then to sue people who were telling lies about them,  that doesn't make them guilty of anything.

Oh just read the post again, will you.

What am I talking about..what are you... you mean

[The General]

thats a reccomnedation not a law

Not sure that would wash with Social Services when the kids have been drawing on the walls with their own faeces.

[Vertigo Swirl]

No.
And again, no.
I would NEVER leave a child alone in a hotel room and b....r off to go and eat and drink with friends. Never. Not even with a listening service. Not even with a robust (or otherwise) checking system.
NEVER. No excuse and there never will be.
Nobody could anticipate? The mode of potential harm is irrelevant. Most parents would be able to come up with 30 reasons not to go out on the sauce with their mates and leave the kids to fend for themselves. It would appear that the McCann's only needed one excuse to do the opposite.
Call me what you like, I don't care, but I wouldn't even lock (yes, lock) a child in a hotel room to nip down to reception to pick something up or run an errand. No chance. Not even if they were asleep. Ain't happening. 3 kids under 4? That's unthinkable for me.
And as for the specific scenario, that's just child cruelty, particularly knowing that they'd been crying for their mum. Utterly pitiful.
So quit with your accusations of bullshit; I call bullshit on your feeble attempts to mitigate neglectful behaviour.
....and how do you control 3 under 4's when you're not there for hours on
end?

What a load of hysterical hyperbole.  No child was left “for hours on end”. 

[Anthro]

It doesn't matter how much you try to excuse it, who else did it, how and where they did it....IT'S STILL WRONG!!

Infants and young children 0-3 years old should never be left alone...this applies also in your car while you run into the shops.
https://www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/in-the-home/home-alone/

Are you suggesting that a child has to have 24-hour supervision? This is not only impracticable, it‘s also impossible. An example: you put your child down for a nap. You take the opportunity to do some domestic chores including hanging washing on the line outside your home. A neighbour notices you and a conversation ensues. Half an hour passes. How is this negligent?

[Anthro]

No.
And again, no.
I would NEVER leave a child alone in a hotel room and b....r off to go and eat and drink with friends. Never. Not even with a listening service. Not even with a robust (or otherwise) checking system.
NEVER. No excuse and there never will be.
Nobody could anticipate? The mode of potential harm is irrelevant. Most parents would be able to come up with 30 reasons not to go out on the sauce with their mates and leave the kids to fend for themselves. It would appear that the McCann's only needed one excuse to do the opposite.
Call me what you like, I don't care, but I wouldn't even lock (yes, lock) a child in a hotel room to nip down to reception to pick something up or run an errand. No chance. Not even if they were asleep. Ain't happening. 3 kids under 4? That's unthinkable for me.
And as for the specific scenario, that's just child cruelty, particularly knowing that they'd been crying for their mum. Utterly pitiful.
So quit with your accusations of bullshit; I call bullshit on your feeble attempts to mitigate neglectful behaviour.
....and how do you control 3 under 4's when you're not there for hours on end?

[Anthro]

No.
And again, no.
I would NEVER leave a child alone in a hotel room and b....r off to go and eat and drink with friends. Never. Not even with a listening service. Not even with a robust (or otherwise) checking system.
NEVER. No excuse and there never will be.
Nobody could anticipate? The mode of potential harm is irrelevant. Most parents would be able to come up with 30 reasons not to go out on the sauce with their mates and leave the kids to fend for themselves. It would appear that the McCann's only needed one excuse to do the opposite.
Call me what you like, I don't care, but I wouldn't even lock (yes, lock) a child in a hotel room to nip down to reception to pick something up or run an errand. No chance. Not even if they were asleep. Ain't happening. 3 kids under 4? That's unthinkable for me.
And as for the specific scenario, that's just child cruelty, particularly knowing that they'd been crying for their mum. Utterly pitiful.
So quit with your accusations of bullshit; I call bullshit on your feeble attempts to mitigate neglectful behaviour.
....and how do you control 3 under 4's when you're not there for hours on end?

That would make you the perfect parent then ... taking into consideration that you actually are a parent. My opinion.

[Vertigo Swirl]

That would make you the perfect parent then ... taking into consideration that you actually are a parent. My opinion.

I often find that the most sanctimonious “perfect parents” don’t actually have children of their own.

[G-Unit]

Not sure that would wash with Social Services when the kids have been drawing on the walls with their own faeces.

My daughter must have been about 3/4 years old when she got up in the night, climbed onto the bathroom stool to get a drink of water, fell off and cut her eyebrow open. Luckily she found me and her dad in our bed and was able to be comforted and given first aid.

[G-Unit]

Are you suggesting that a child has to have 24-hour supervision? This is not only impracticable, it‘s also impossible. An example: you put your child down for a nap. You take the opportunity to do some domestic chores including hanging washing on the line outside your home. A neighbour notices you and a conversation ensues. Half an hour passes. How is this negligent?

It isn't. Going out for a meal with your mates is negligent.