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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #450 on: September 23, 2020, 10:40:49 AM »
What I have said it seems there is no film....not that CB didn't rape her.


One of the mistakes people have made is saying there is a film of the rape of the pensioner that is not true,” he said.

“And the prosecution are using two very dubious witnesses to help their case.”



https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-prime-suspects-lawyer-22688679
Perhaps you and the other Bruckner defenders could address my previous post then, if there was never a video. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #451 on: September 23, 2020, 10:44:47 AM »
If there was never a video and the ex-associates made them up, how did they know that the old woman and the Irish woman's rapes were both videoed?  Amazing coindicence isn't it?  Unless they were the actual perpetrators - is that is what is being suggested here?  That Bruckner has been fitted up for rapes he never committed?  And now the adduction and murder of Madeleine McCann too?  Jeez, he really must have done something to upset all his erstwhile pals!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #452 on: September 23, 2020, 11:06:21 AM »
Perhaps you and the other Bruckner defenders could address my previous post then, if there was never a video.

How does pointing out you were wrong ...make me a CB defender.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #453 on: September 23, 2020, 11:10:11 AM »
How does pointing out you were wrong ...make me a CB defender.

there has to be  a film because the victim said the rape was filmed

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #454 on: September 23, 2020, 11:11:15 AM »
If there was never a video and the ex-associates made them up, how did they know that the old woman and the Irish woman's rapes were both videoed?  Amazing coindicence isn't it?  Unless they were the actual perpetrators - is that is what is being suggested here?  That Bruckner has been fitted up for rapes he never committed?  And now the adduction and murder of Madeleine McCann too?  Jeez, he really must have done something to upset all his erstwhile pals!


Jeez, he really must have done something to upset all his erstwhile pals!


Not at all ...they do anything for money it seems


Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #455 on: September 23, 2020, 11:15:57 AM »
there has to be  a film because the victim said the rape was filmed

What part of what FF said do you not understand.

FROM CB LAWYER.

“One of the mistakes people have made is saying there is a film of the rape of the pensioner that is not true,” he said.

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #456 on: September 23, 2020, 11:28:58 AM »
They lie ...do things for money...so how on earth can you make them credible.

It is strange how one's standards drop when it suits an agenda it seems.

He took photographs of his girlfriend's daughter as part of his abuse of her.

The Germans are investigating if he is involved in the rape of the Irish woman who recognised the MO being used by Brueckner during the rape of the American woman.
Both women were filmed.

Brueckner has an interest in collecting video and photos whether filmed first hand or downloaded as detailed in the cache found by the German police.

What details are given to the police by his fellow miscreants will be disregarded unless there is evidence which fits it into the jig saw of evidence the German police are putting together.

I think the Germans are being very thorough in their collection of evidence but as you can see they have plenty to be going on with.  There is no need to rush Madeleine's case while they sort through other cases for example the ten year old accosted on the beach which should have been dealt with at the least even if not solved at the time by the Portuguese police.
I don't think the Portuguese police record of dealing with offenses against women and children, mainly girls, is a particularly good one.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #457 on: September 23, 2020, 11:33:29 AM »
He took photographs of his girlfriend's daughter as part of his abuse of her.

The Germans are investigating if he is involved in the rape of the Irish woman who recognised the MO being used by Brueckner during the rape of the American woman.
Both women were filmed.

Brueckner has an interest in collecting video and photos whether filmed first hand or downloaded as detailed in the cache found by the German police.

What details are given to the police by his fellow miscreants will be disregarded unless there is evidence which fits it into the jig saw of evidence the German police are putting together.

I think the Germans are being very thorough in their collection of evidence but as you can see they have plenty to be going on with.  There is no need to rush Madeleine's case while they sort through other cases for example the ten year old accosted on the beach which should have been dealt with at the least even if not solved at the time by the Portuguese police.
I don't think the Portuguese police record of dealing with offenses against women and children, mainly girls, is a particularly good one.

What has any of that got to do with my post you quoted ....that HCW witnesses have no credibility.

Also, they do anything for money. B

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #458 on: September 23, 2020, 11:36:57 AM »

Jeez, he really must have done something to upset all his erstwhile pals!


Not at all ...they do anything for money it seems

At one time I believe there was a considerable amount of reward money available for Madeleine.

Do you know of any money presently on offer which would encourage any of these guys to break cover and go public with all the ramifications they might attract from their peers as a result.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #459 on: September 23, 2020, 11:38:47 AM »
What has any of that got to do with my post you quoted ....that HCW witnesses have no credibility.

Also, they do anything for money. B

We know that Brueckner does anything for money.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #460 on: September 23, 2020, 11:45:44 AM »

Jeez, he really must have done something to upset all his erstwhile pals!


Not at all ...they do anything for money it seems
Think about what you've just written and try and figure out why it makes no sense at all.  I wonder if you can...
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #461 on: September 23, 2020, 11:47:40 AM »
What part of what FF said do you not understand.

FROM CB LAWYER.

“One of the mistakes people have made is saying there is a film of the rape of the pensioner that is not true,” he said.

The pensioner will know if she was videoed or not.  Are you of the view that she lied about the video evidence then?  The other rape victim says she was videoed.  How the HELL does CB's lawyer know for a fact that there was no rape video?  Was he actually there at the time the rape took place?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #462 on: September 23, 2020, 12:07:52 PM »
The pensioner will know if she was videoed or not.  Are you of the view that she lied about the video evidence then?  The other rape victim says she was videoed.  How the HELL does CB's lawyer know for a fact that there was no rape video?  Was he actually there at the time the rape took place?

Aw come on he is a lawyer...How AM I of the view the lady lied.

I didn't say it FF did ...take it up with him.

My point that you are twisting to your own advantage it seems.

Is if there isnt a film ...how can the so-called witnesses say they have seen it ..that is the question.

Its obvious FF  would know if there was one he has the documentation obviously because he is his lawyer for the rape.

Common sence should prevail here.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #463 on: September 23, 2020, 12:10:49 PM »
Aw come on he is a lawyer...How AM I of the view the lady lied.

I didn't say it FF did ...take it up with him.

My point that you are twisting to your own advantage it seems.

Is if there isnt a film ...how can the so-called witnesses say they have seen it ..that is the question.

Its obvious FF  would know if there was one he has the documentation obviously because he is his lawyer for the rape.

Common sence should prevail here.
If only!  If there isn't a film then the so-called witnesses made up something that by sheer coincidence contained enough supporting evidence to confirm the victim's account.  Amazing! 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #464 on: September 23, 2020, 12:13:00 PM »
If only!  If there isn't a film then the so-called witnesses made up something that by sheer coincidence contained enough supporting evidence to confirm the victim's account.  Amazing!

No....you are saying she made it up not me.