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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #600 on: September 25, 2020, 12:42:12 PM »
Thirdly she was disturbed enough to report it ...but it seemed to fall on deaf ears as usual IMO.

She obviously knew them so why would she get the wrong end of the stick...when she was sat there.

She probably knew what the conversation was about......whatever it disturbed her enough to report it.

Also doctors. ...Payne was the last indepenant witness also....disturbing imo.



The accusations were brought by a couple of friends that spent their holidays with part of the group in the summer of 2005 – themselves also English doctors.


http://madeleinemccann.org/blog/2008/07/19/payne-suspected-of-paedophilia/

I think it's ridiculous  to suggest sexual abuse of Maddie was being discussed openly by GM

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #601 on: September 25, 2020, 12:54:15 PM »
I think it's ridiculous  to suggest sexual abuse of Maddie was being discussed openly by GM

Now it wasn't me who suggested that...its just your thinking it seems.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #602 on: September 25, 2020, 01:07:15 PM »
Now it wasn't me who suggested that...its just your thinking it seems.

It's a general remark aimed at anyone who thinks Gerry was discussing the abuse of his own daughter  openly for all to hear

Offline Lace

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #603 on: September 25, 2020, 01:16:46 PM »
Thirdly she was disturbed enough to report it ...but it seemed to fall on deaf ears as usual IMO.

She obviously knew them so why would she get the wrong end of the stick...when she was sat there.

She probably knew what the conversation was about......whatever it disturbed her enough to report it.

Also doctors. ...Payne was the last indepenant witness also....disturbing imo.



The accusations were brought by a couple of friends that spent their holidays with part of the group in the summer of 2005 – themselves also English doctors.


http://madeleinemccann.org/blog/2008/07/19/payne-suspected-of-paedophilia/

Why do you find it disturbing.

He called in to see if Kate was ok as instructed by Gerry,  went to his apartment collected his tennis things and went to play tennis.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #604 on: September 25, 2020, 01:21:00 PM »
Brueckner, every time.
Your mother needs a lift home and you'd feel she'd be safer getting Bruckner to drive her home than David Payne?  Yes, of course you would. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #605 on: September 25, 2020, 01:22:58 PM »
Brueckner, every time.
You need a babysitter at the last minute.  You have a choice between a guy who once made a rude gesture in front of a child or a guy who has a criminal record for child abuse and rape.  You pick the latter.  Of course you would.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #606 on: September 25, 2020, 01:23:54 PM »
I think we need to change topic.  Get back on topic please. 
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Online Wonderfulspam

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #607 on: September 25, 2020, 01:42:06 PM »
You need a babysitter at the last minute.  You have a choice between a guy who once made a rude gesture in front of a child or a guy who has a criminal record for child abuse and rape.  You pick the latter.  Of course you would.

Yep. I would.
Same as I'd rather my entire family die of heart disease than be treated by Gerry.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #608 on: September 25, 2020, 01:43:26 PM »
Yep. I would.
Same as I'd rather my entire family die of heart disease than be treated by Gerry.

Gerry may well agree with you

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #609 on: September 25, 2020, 02:08:45 PM »
It's a general remark aimed at anyone who thinks Gerry was discussing the abuse of his own daughter  openly for all to hear

Well, you wouldnt know ...you wasn't there ...she was.

I didnt mention Maddie but seems KG did.,seeing you mentioned it.

Katherina made a statement that was eight pages long. She reported holidays in Mallorca with several English [people], including the McCanns and the Paynes. Two incidents left her with serious doubts about the friends’ behaviour and lead her to create suspicions that were never confirmed.

The first one happened on a night when Gerry and Dave were talking about Maddie. Katherina does not know what they were saying but she remembers that Dave sucked on his fingers, pushing them into the mouth and pulling them out again, while his other hand traced a circle around the nipple, with a circular movement over the clothes. “That was done in a provocative manner”, recalls Katherina, who says that it stuck to her memory.

Days later, the scene repeated itself. The doctor saw Dave making the same gestures again, while he talked about his own daughter. Scared, Katherina said nothing about the incident. But she took special caution, asking her husband never to let the doctor come close to the bathroom when her daughter was having a bath.

Arul went to the police to tell the same story. Katherina’s companion confirmed the gestures that were made by Dave during the conversation with Gerry but asserted that he wasn’t aware that they were talking about Maddie. He did find the behaviour in extremely bad taste, but didn’t see it being repeated.

The incident ended up forgotten in his memory and it was only the disappearance of Madeleine, who had also been with them on the Mallorca vacation, that revived it.

During the deposition, Katherina went even further and said she had associated the gestures to someone who likes to watch child pornography. “I remember thinking whether he looked at the girls in a different manner”, she concluded.


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #610 on: September 25, 2020, 02:13:35 PM »
Well, you wouldnt know ...you wasn't there ...she was.

I didnt mention Maddie but seems KG did.,seeing you mentioned it.

Katherina made a statement that was eight pages long. She reported holidays in Mallorca with several English [people], including the McCanns and the Paynes. Two incidents left her with serious doubts about the friends’ behaviour and lead her to create suspicions that were never confirmed.

The first one happened on a night when Gerry and Dave were talking about Maddie. Katherina does not know what they were saying but she remembers that Dave sucked on his fingers, pushing them into the mouth and pulling them out again, while his other hand traced a circle around the nipple, with a circular movement over the clothes. “That was done in a provocative manner”, recalls Katherina, who says that it stuck to her memory.

Days later, the scene repeated itself. The doctor saw Dave making the same gestures again, while he talked about his own daughter. Scared, Katherina said nothing about the incident. But she took special caution, asking her husband never to let the doctor come close to the bathroom when her daughter was having a bath.

Arul went to the police to tell the same story. Katherina’s companion confirmed the gestures that were made by Dave during the conversation with Gerry but asserted that he wasn’t aware that they were talking about Maddie. He did find the behaviour in extremely bad taste, but didn’t see it being repeated.

The incident ended up forgotten in his memory and it was only the disappearance of Madeleine, who had also been with them on the Mallorca vacation, that revived it.

During the deposition, Katherina went even further and said she had associated the gestures to someone who likes to watch child pornography. “I remember thinking whether he looked at the girls in a different manner”, she concluded.


I think it's ridiculous to think GM would openly discuss the sexual abuse of his own daughter


Way off topic too

Offline Eleanor

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #611 on: September 25, 2020, 02:26:07 PM »
Yep. I would.
Same as I'd rather my entire family die of heart disease than be treated by Gerry.

You as well, I presume.  Now there's a thought.

Offline kizzy

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #612 on: September 25, 2020, 02:40:46 PM »
I think it's ridiculous to think GM would openly discuss the sexual abuse of his own daughter


Way off topic too

Well thats you KG was their.. friend.. also a doctor..and was there why should she lie if it wasn't true.

Why is it of topic its about the mccs ...a statement concerning the mccs/payne.

What seems imo could have been classed as circumstational evidece.

Friends from school days
Arul and Kate were friends from their school days. They have known each other for approximately 20 years and that was the motive that led the couple to accompany the McCanns on their holidays to Mallorca



http://madeleinemccann.org/blog/2008/07/19/payne-suspected-of-paedophilia/

Offline Lace

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #613 on: September 25, 2020, 03:45:47 PM »
Yep. I would.
Same as I'd rather my entire family die of heart disease than be treated by Gerry.

Well lets hope your family have a say in how they are treated and by whom and not you.

Offline barrier

Re: Is there more circumstantial evidence against the mccanns than there is CB
« Reply #614 on: September 25, 2020, 04:05:27 PM »
Yep. I would.
Same as I'd rather my entire family die of heart disease than be treated by Gerry.

There'll be some from here who'll be apoplectic  you're not banned, over on Stop myths.
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