Are The Tabloids Running Scared?

[kizzy]

Possibly Carter Ruck might have offices in Germany but I don't think your analysis of the situation is correct.

Please can you tell me who and what you think may be 'scaring' the tabloids?

Well at a guess ..lible action.

[Brietta]

Well at a guess ..lible action.

That is interesting.  Which tabloids do you think might fear libel action and what libel do you think they may have printed.

[G-Unit]

He possibly does but I couldn't really say
.... one way or another.
He makes dreadful accusations against the families of those killed in the  Manchester bombings and equally offensive videos about other terrorist killings.
He has made many videos about Madeleine`s disappearance and is held in high regard by many sceptics who refer to his theories.
Would you dismiss the views of anyone who quotes his theories?
 Sorry, I'm going to be busy but may rejoin the debate later.

In my opinion anyone who claims psychic powers is a charlatan as I don't believe in such things. I have already said I don't know much about Richard D Hall, but I assume he's offering his opinions, based on the evidence available, unlike people like James who claim to be able to 'see' things.

As I've said before, I'm a sceptical person, but I'm not a member of the wider 'sceptic' group which, imo, exists only in the imaginations of those who support the McCanns. 

If someone quoted Richard D Hall I would look at the evidence he is using and react accordingly. I may or may not agree with what he says.

[jassi]

In my opinion anyone who claims psychic powers is a charlatan as I don't believe in such things. I have already said I don't know much about Richard D Hall, but I assume he's offering his opinions, based on the evidence available, unlike people like James who claim to be able to 'see' things.

As I've said before, I'm a sceptical person, but I'm not a member of the wider 'sceptic' group which, imo, exists only in the imaginations of those who support the McCanns. 

If someone quoted Richard D Hall I would look at the evidence he is using and react accordingly. I may or may not agree with what he says.

I would agree with that.

[G-Unit]

Amaral had NO evidence to support any of his hare brained theories.  Can you name just one piece of what he claimed as evidence in justification for making the McCanns arguios that stood up to professional scrutiny in the cold light of day?

You do not have a clue what evidence Wolters has to inform his opinion; I think it would be a good idea for you to wait and see just where the evidence he has to hand may take him.

Is it Wolters some think the press is 'running' scared from?

There was no professional scrutiny of the fact that both McCanns deleted all evidence of their calls and texts up to the disappearance of their daughter.

I don't need to know what evidence Wolters has to know that he is endangering Brueckner's right to the presumption of innocence by accusing him of committing a crime before he has been arrested, questioned or charged. All I need to know is that he admits he hasn't got enough to prove his accusations are correct.

It might be worth mentioning that Amaral wasn't a police officer when he published his book, he was a civilian giving an opinion. Wolters is an active member of the German Judiciary involved in the investigation and his statements have caused a trial by media. imo,  which could well affect any 'real' trial.

[kizzy]

There was no professional scrutiny of the fact that both McCanns deleted all evidence of their calls and texts up to the disappearance of their daughter.

I don't need to know what evidence Wolters has to know that he is endangering Brueckner's right to the presumption of innocence by accusing him of committing a crime before he has been arrested, questioned or charged. All I need to know is that he admits he hasn't got enough to prove his accusations are correct.

It might be worth mentioning that Amaral wasn't a police officer when he published his book, he was a civilian giving an opinion. Wolters is an active member of the German Judiciary involved in the investigation and his statements have caused a trial by media. imo,  which could well affect any 'real' trial.

excellent post

[Brietta]

There was no professional scrutiny of the fact that both McCanns deleted all evidence of their calls and texts up to the disappearance of their daughter.

I don't need to know what evidence Wolters has to know that he is endangering Brueckner's right to the presumption of innocence by accusing him of committing a crime before he has been arrested, questioned or charged. All I need to know is that he admits he hasn't got enough to prove his accusations are correct.

It might be worth mentioning that Amaral wasn't a police officer when he published his book, he was a civilian giving an opinion. Wolters is an active member of the German Judiciary involved in the investigation and his statements have caused a trial by media. imo,  which could well affect any 'real' trial.

Pray tell eactly why exactly you think the McCann phone calls bore any relevance at the time in 2007 and worth having a mention now in 2020.

Although I must agree with you that there was no professional scrutiny at the time.  Don't forget it was Amaral's team who were ecstatic about which masts were pinged between Luz and the airport then back again.

Interesting you should mention 'trial by media'.

Let's start with  the tabloids which crucified the McCanns with lies and innuendo.  How has Brueckner fared with them?  What lies have they told about him?  do you think they are lying about his convictions for paedophilia or his conviction for rape.

Then there is social media with blogs entitled ...
McCann: Abuse of Power articles
Ambassador Interference- PJ will NOT get Madeleine's clothes
Biased judge failed to protect Madeleine’s interests
Brian Kennedy and Metodo 3 meet PJ detectives
Brian Kennedy: charity started 23 July 08
Brian Kennedy contacts witness Mr Smith
Britains massive cover-up of paedophilia
British lawyers refuse to defend Gonçalo Amaral
British Media and Manipulation
Clarence Mitchell lied under oath?
Clarence Mitchell threatens Mr Amaral
Clarence Mitchell, Freud Communications and Tony Blair
Clarence Mitchell: An Ongoing Profile
Clarence Mitchell: The gloves are off!
Clarence Mitchell: The Inside Man?
David Payne suspected of paedophilia
Detectives' hunt for Madeleine 'was illegal'
Ex Portuguese police chief claims that Gerry McCann hid the body of Madeleine McCann on the beach
For whom was Clarence Mitchell working?
Furious McCanns & Clarence 'spinner' Mitchell Threat Gonçalo Amaral .... Again
Gerry McCann laughed during drama at the PJ
Gerry McCann made images of Madeleine on the night of the crime
Gerry McCann stealing NHS resources?
Gerry McCann, COMARE and the government
Gonçalo Amaral: “Madeleine is dead; where she is buried, I do not know"
Gordon Brown discusses McCann case with Portuguese Prime Minister
Gordon Brown has Gonçalo Amaral removed from investigation when he was "close to finding Maddie"
Gordon Brown suggests changes to fraudulent “Findmadeleine” campaign strategy
Government agency monitoring peoples blogs
Government interference in McCann case
Government spokesman, Clarence Mitchell: The gloves are off!
Health authories and councils get power to ‘spy’ on your e-mail and net use
Home Office refused to give PJ information about Gerry's credit cards
How The Madeleine Case Supported the Extension of Amber Alert System and the EU's Prüm Treaty To The Remaining 27 Member States - And How Downing Street Obliged
Jon Corner & McCann-Erickson
Judge and Jury?
Kate McCann forced political pressure on the investigation
Kate Mccann's fingerprints all over fake break in attempt
Kate McCann: My struggle to control ‘very difficult’ Madeleine
Kate tried everything to accuse Robert Murat
Kate's secrets: Staged Walks
Leicester hospitals link to fraudulent Find Madeleine Fund
Leicester police allowed Russell O'Brien to read his wifes statement before questioning
Leicestershire Constabulary's unlawful link to fraudulent McCann fund
Let's hold a Madeleine Day for the whole world - June 3 2007
Lori Campbell: Kate McCann was given a Do-It-Yourself guide to policing by UK cops
Madeleine McCann's Human Rights - and the ensuing Abuse of those Rights
Madeleine McCann: Ward of Court
Madeleine, the McCanns, Family Justice and the Family Courts
McCann detectives become multimillionaires - Correio da Manhã
McCanns are guilty
McCanns contacted witness who incriminated Gerry McCann
McCanns link in Barry George case
McCanns refuse reconstruction
McCanns to get away with homicide
McCanns use Maddie fund to pay mortgage
McCanns use of famous people angers police
McCanns: A web of deceit
McCanns: Accept our version of events or else...
Menwith Hill - the original Big Brother
Microchip identification for children
Mortgage payments made from Fund
Murat libel settlement
No body means no conviction of the McCanns, admits prosecutor
Pat Perkins
PJ admits children were drugged (Pt)
Police files reveal McCanns and Tanner's lies
Portuguese Attorney General Office Hides List of Brits Paedo
Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Home Secretary Jacqui Smith visit Leicester Police Station
Private investigators working at Praia da Luz in May 2007
Public prosecutors office was not informed about Leicestershire Police decision
Question 41. Is it true that in England you even considered handing over Madeleine’s custody to a relative?
Silence of the McCanns
Standing ovation for Gerry McCann at Police Bravery Awards
Susan Healy confirms that Gerry said how important it was that everyone accept it as an abduction straight away
The (fraudulent) Fund
The McCann Connections
The McCanns, Control Risks Group and Risk Assessment in the 'New Morocco'
The McCanns: Guilty as hell!
The true story about the inflatable billboard
The truth of the matter is that the McCanns did lie
Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and Richard Branson
UK Ambassador denies contacts between Governments about Madeleine's case
University Hospitals Leicester links directly to McCanns fraudulent fund
Who framed Robert Murat?
Who's who in Team McCann?
Why Madeleine is dead
Witnesses Heard by The PJ in the Maddie Case Were Sounded Out by the McCanns
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A lot of hard work goes on in many hundreds but I think it is closer to many, many, many thousands of such internet links set up specifically to abuse the McCann family with which you obviously have shared beliefs does not impugn McCann rights
Can you direct me to a single feed of such malice and vilification being directed at Brueckner.  Or even what the the tabloids have printed which promotes thought they are scared of something.

[Brietta]

There was no professional scrutiny of the fact that both McCanns deleted all evidence of their calls and texts up to the disappearance of their daughter.

I don't need to know what evidence Wolters has to know that he is endangering Brueckner's right to the presumption of innocence by accusing him of committing a crime before he has been arrested, questioned or charged. All I need to know is that he admits he hasn't got enough to prove his accusations are correct.

It might be worth mentioning that Amaral wasn't a police officer when he published his book, he was a civilian giving an opinion. Wolters is an active member of the German Judiciary involved in the investigation and his statements have caused a trial by media. imo,  which could well affect any 'real' trial.

Amaral continues to do what he has done since the day of Madeleine's disappearance and in my opinion that is to show up his incompetence with his unprofessional behaviour in self promoting interviews.

He really never misses a trick when it comes to a Portuguese interviewer and audience in my opinion.  Don't the Portuguese have any Paxmans or Neils around.  Although I get the impression that future interviewer might not be as deferential.

Snip
They continue, thus, there are developments in this case in which the former inspector of the Judicial Police (PJ) who took over the case 13 years ago told Jornal do Centro that there is still a lot to unravel.

In an exclusive interview recently given to Jornal do Centro , the former inspector of the PJ and former coordinator of the investigation, the Viseense Gonçalo Amaral, said that the German suspect was nothing more than a new almost perfect suspect and that he could be a "scapegoat".

“As the couple [McCann] says that he was a pedophile from the first hour, a pedophile must be found. The suspect was in the Algarve, as well as a hundred other pedophiles ”.

In early June, authorities had announced that Christian Brueckner was the new prime suspect in the disappearance and possible murder of Madeleine McCann, a case that has never been closed until now. The suspect, 43, resided in Portugal between 1996 and 2007. Authorities believe Maddie is dead and that it was Christian Brueckner who killed her.
https://www.jornaldocentro.pt/online/sociedade/caso-maddie-policia-alema-faz-investigacao-na-casa-do-alemao-que-goncalo-amaral


Worth bearing in mind that Madeleine's investigation is a cold case come very much alive with a realistic  prime suspect at its centre.

What is it you think the civilian Amaral is doing with his many interventions and inferences regarding Madeleine's parents at the centre if it is not impugning their rights?

Amaral has invested a lot of his life and his undoubted reputation in ensuring Madeleine's parents have been scapegoated for over thirteen years while being allowed to turn his sins into virtues by quite a following.

Do you think the tabloids are running scared of that?

[sadie]

Matthew James? I'm afraid I can't take anyone who listens to such charlatans seriously. Here's just one of his flights of fancy, dated July 2007. We know now it wasn't something which was going to happen to the McCanns in connection with Madeleine;

Choosing the photograph above of Madeleine McCann, who I call the Shining Star, for 'photographic psychometry' ... to gain a sense or any impressions of what is around her. Immediately I saw an event which I can only glean to be 'of the future' .... Kate McCann wearing a white top flinging her arms out to catch a running little girl in her arms. Kate has a handbag with shoulder strap (can this be confirmed??) which had to be put on the ground moments before. Kate's face is smiling; there are tears in her eyes. Gerry appears to be crying too.
https://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t7719-a-new-madeleine-picture-matt-james

Matt James a charlatan?   Scotland yard have been in touch with him anyway.   But then YOU would know better than S.Y. wouldn't you ?   

The address you gave us doesn't seem to work
https://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t7719-a-new-madeleine-picture-matt-james

[Brietta]

There was no professional scrutiny of the fact that both McCanns deleted all evidence of their calls and texts up to the disappearance of their daughter.

I don't need to know what evidence Wolters has to know that he is endangering Brueckner's right to the presumption of innocence by accusing him of committing a crime before he has been arrested, questioned or charged. All I need to know is that he admits he hasn't got enough to prove his accusations are correct.

It might be worth mentioning that Amaral wasn't a police officer when he published his book, he was a civilian giving an opinion. Wolters is an active member of the German Judiciary involved in the investigation and his statements have caused a trial by media. imo,  which could well affect any 'real' trial.

You have started your post with  an outdated shibboleth which should have been long since abandoned by anyone giving it serious thought.
n my opinion it is used solely to impugn Madeleine's parents.

Don't you think by doing so you might be in danger of abusing the McCann right to the presumption of innocence of which you are accusing Wolters.

Or is it OK to do so because they are the McCanns and not career criminals like the present prime suspect?

Do you think the tabloids are running scared of libelling them yet again?

[faithlilly]

Matt James a charlatan?   Scotland yard have been in touch with him anyway.   But then YOU would know better than S.Y. wouldn't you ?   

The address you gave us doesn't seem to work
https://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t7719-a-new-madeleine-picture-matt-james

Now that is worrying.

[G-Unit]

excellent post

Thank you Kizzy.

[sadie]

I can come up with many labels which I think categorise Richard Hall.

From what I have seen of Matthew James blog, I think that at the least he is good hearted and a wonderful photographer who has a bit of a following in his niche.
I do not know enough about him to categorically label him a charlatan.

Being as my life has been  largely science based, I never believed in psychics, mediums etc.  But I was astounded when I finally unravelled one of his rune collections and found that he had worked out (I know not how but I guess it was psychic) exactly what I had worked out from months of hard work using normal methods.

I now can understand some bits of his runes.   Anyone who dismisses his Madeleine output' willy-nilly is losing out IMHO, but 'by gad' the runes take some understanding.   From the bits that I understand, it seems that we are both largely going along  virtually the same route with much of our thinking on the Madeleine case.

As you say Brie, his photographs are fabulous.

[G-Unit]

Pray tell eactly why exactly you think the McCann phone calls bore any relevance at the time in 2007 and worth having a mention now in 2020.

Although I must agree with you that there was no professional scrutiny at the time.  Don't forget it was Amaral's team who were ecstatic about which masts were pinged between Luz and the airport then back again.

Interesting you should mention 'trial by media'.

Let's start with  the tabloids which crucified the McCanns with lies and innuendo.  How has Brueckner fared with them?  What lies have they told about him?  do you think they are lying about his convictions for paedophilia or his conviction for rape.

Then there is social media with blogs entitled ...
McCann: Abuse of Power articles
Ambassador Interference- PJ will NOT get Madeleine's clothes
Biased judge failed to protect Madeleine’s interests
Brian Kennedy and Metodo 3 meet PJ detectives
Brian Kennedy: charity started 23 July 08
Brian Kennedy contacts witness Mr Smith
Britains massive cover-up of paedophilia
British lawyers refuse to defend Gonçalo Amaral
British Media and Manipulation
Clarence Mitchell lied under oath?
Clarence Mitchell threatens Mr Amaral
Clarence Mitchell, Freud Communications and Tony Blair
Clarence Mitchell: An Ongoing Profile
Clarence Mitchell: The gloves are off!
Clarence Mitchell: The Inside Man?
David Payne suspected of paedophilia
Detectives' hunt for Madeleine 'was illegal'
Ex Portuguese police chief claims that Gerry McCann hid the body of Madeleine McCann on the beach
For whom was Clarence Mitchell working?
Furious McCanns & Clarence 'spinner' Mitchell Threat Gonçalo Amaral .... Again
Gerry McCann laughed during drama at the PJ
Gerry McCann made images of Madeleine on the night of the crime
Gerry McCann stealing NHS resources?
Gerry McCann, COMARE and the government
Gonçalo Amaral: “Madeleine is dead; where she is buried, I do not know"
Gordon Brown discusses McCann case with Portuguese Prime Minister
Gordon Brown has Gonçalo Amaral removed from investigation when he was "close to finding Maddie"
Gordon Brown suggests changes to fraudulent “Findmadeleine” campaign strategy
Government agency monitoring peoples blogs
Government interference in McCann case
Government spokesman, Clarence Mitchell: The gloves are off!
Health authories and councils get power to ‘spy’ on your e-mail and net use
Home Office refused to give PJ information about Gerry's credit cards
How The Madeleine Case Supported the Extension of Amber Alert System and the EU's Prüm Treaty To The Remaining 27 Member States - And How Downing Street Obliged
Jon Corner & McCann-Erickson
Judge and Jury?
Kate McCann forced political pressure on the investigation
Kate Mccann's fingerprints all over fake break in attempt
Kate McCann: My struggle to control ‘very difficult’ Madeleine
Kate tried everything to accuse Robert Murat
Kate's secrets: Staged Walks
Leicester hospitals link to fraudulent Find Madeleine Fund
Leicester police allowed Russell O'Brien to read his wifes statement before questioning
Leicestershire Constabulary's unlawful link to fraudulent McCann fund
Let's hold a Madeleine Day for the whole world - June 3 2007
Lori Campbell: Kate McCann was given a Do-It-Yourself guide to policing by UK cops
Madeleine McCann's Human Rights - and the ensuing Abuse of those Rights
Madeleine McCann: Ward of Court
Madeleine, the McCanns, Family Justice and the Family Courts
McCann detectives become multimillionaires - Correio da Manhã
McCanns are guilty
McCanns contacted witness who incriminated Gerry McCann
McCanns link in Barry George case
McCanns refuse reconstruction
McCanns to get away with homicide
McCanns use Maddie fund to pay mortgage
McCanns use of famous people angers police
McCanns: A web of deceit
McCanns: Accept our version of events or else...
Menwith Hill - the original Big Brother
Microchip identification for children
Mortgage payments made from Fund
Murat libel settlement
No body means no conviction of the McCanns, admits prosecutor
Pat Perkins
PJ admits children were drugged (Pt)
Police files reveal McCanns and Tanner's lies
Portuguese Attorney General Office Hides List of Brits Paedo
Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Home Secretary Jacqui Smith visit Leicester Police Station
Private investigators working at Praia da Luz in May 2007
Public prosecutors office was not informed about Leicestershire Police decision
Question 41. Is it true that in England you even considered handing over Madeleine’s custody to a relative?
Silence of the McCanns
Standing ovation for Gerry McCann at Police Bravery Awards
Susan Healy confirms that Gerry said how important it was that everyone accept it as an abduction straight away
The (fraudulent) Fund
The McCann Connections
The McCanns, Control Risks Group and Risk Assessment in the 'New Morocco'
The McCanns: Guilty as hell!
The true story about the inflatable billboard
The truth of the matter is that the McCanns did lie
Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and Richard Branson
UK Ambassador denies contacts between Governments about Madeleine's case
University Hospitals Leicester links directly to McCanns fraudulent fund
Who framed Robert Murat?
Who's who in Team McCann?
Why Madeleine is dead
Witnesses Heard by The PJ in the Maddie Case Were Sounded Out by the McCanns
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A lot of hard work goes on in many hundreds but I think it is closer to many, many, many thousands of such internet links set up specifically to abuse the McCann family with which you obviously have shared beliefs does not impugn McCann rights
Can you direct me to a single feed of such malice and vilification being directed at Brueckner.  Or even what the the tabloids have printed which promotes thought they are scared of something.

You asked for one example and I gave it to you.

Nobody was discussing the McCanns or social media, so I've no idea what the relevance of your list is. I think the media have come very close to conducting a trial. Ignoring the reserve which is expected in Germany, they have named Brueckner, reported on his past offenses and repeated all kinds of accusations against him by his friends, neighbours and aquaintances. Added to what Brueckner has said, it is very difficult to see any sign of balanced reporting.

Then they stopped dead and said nothing. Not even the Sun! Was their last story on 25th September when they
said;

It has also emerged Christian B has instructed a UK legal firm to assist him in his bid to prove his innocence - but it's not yet known who's footing the bill.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12773229/madeleine-mccann-body-prosecute-suspect-murder/

Has the UK legal team taken action?

[G-Unit]

Matt James a charlatan?   Scotland yard have been in touch with him anyway.   But then YOU would know better than S.Y. wouldn't you ?   

The address you gave us doesn't seem to work
https://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t7719-a-new-madeleine-picture-matt-james

Do you have evidence that Scotland yard have been in touch with Matt James in connection with the McCann case?