Michael Tatschl

[Robittybob1]

I think he may have been making reference to Brueghner's penchant for young girlfriends?

Yet he made mention of Nichole being 20 years his senior. 

[Myster]

Yet he made mention of Nichole being 20 years his senior.

Sugar mama who informs him of a potential 100 grand suitcase heist to splash out on a Winnegogo.

[Robittybob1]

Sugar mama who informs him of a potential 100 grand suitcase heist to splash out on a Winnegogo.

This is a possibility.   Who paid the price?

[Mr Gray]

He talks a lot about what happened before Madeleine was taken but not much about that night and the time afterward.

To me that's the most important point. Did CB have contact with anyone around this time...that is what Wolters is interested in

[Robittybob1]

To me that's the most important point. Did CB have contact with anyone around this time...that is what Wolters is interested in

Tatschl interviews seem to suggest that CB is capable of snatching a child and setting out to deliver that child for the purpose of selling that child.

I'm at a loss as to how these deals would be initiated, coordinated etc.   I think you'd need to have the client arranged before one took possession of the child.

I don't see Tatschl suggesting that CB would end up killing the child when he is hoping to sell the child.
Is this supporting the McCann's hope that Madeleine is alive? 

[Mr Gray]

Tatschl interviews seem to suggest that CB is capable of snatching a child and setting out to deliver that child for the purpose of selling that child.

I'm at a loss as to how these deals would be initiated, coordinated etc.

I don't see Tatschl suggesting that CB would end up killing the child when he is hoping to sell the child.
Is this supporting the McCann's hope that Madeleine is alive?

It isn't. I'm sure the McCannd sccept that Maddie is probably dead but won't accept it without proof

[Robittybob1]

It isn't. I'm sure the McCanns accept that Maddie is probably dead but won't accept it without proof

But am I right in saying that Tatschl suggests CB took her to sell her rather than to just abuse her and kill her?

[Brietta]

But am I right in saying that Tatschl suggests CB took her to sell her rather than to just abuse her and kill her?

I don't know what passes for logic in the topsy-turvy world of recreational and hard drug use/abuse and supply and could only second guess it.  But what I do know is that these guys and gals would sell their nearest and dearest not even in the price was right ~ just if there there is a price at all.

It is a dark underbelly which the police have to contend with day and daily.  Whoever took Madeleine might very well have done so against such a background and has had thirteen+ years to cover his/her tracks.  Ably aided and abetted by a botched police investigation which determinedly concentrated on pointing in the opposite direction

[Mr Gray]

But am I right in saying that Tatschl suggests CB took her to sell her rather than to just abuse her and kill her?

I don't see it that way

[Robittybob1]

I don't see it that way

The way I see it is you are fixated on what The German investigator (HCW) is saying i.e. that they have evidence CB murdered her or something along that line.

With that you must be reluctant to accept Madeleine could be still alive.   Can there be a theory where you have both dead and alive girls that could be confused in some way?     I used to think so, but it gets even more difficult to understand how this worked if CB is involved with both the living and the deceased child.

I would like to see what the evidence is that HCW says he has.  Could the deceased child be the one that looks like Madeleine so Madeline can remain alive taking the other's place in a family.   That gets very difficult to take. 

Something as complicated as that may explain why CB never informed Tatschl as to what he had been up to.

[The General]

I don't see it that way

1. Opportunist paedo happens upon the boozing antics of negligent parents, snatches child, commits various nefarious acts, disposes of dead child.
2. Common or garden burglar / paedo stumbles upon the holy grail of apartments (see negligent actions of parents above), containing 3 unaccompanied children under the age of 4, steals child and nothing else, commits various nefarious acts, disposes of dead child.
3. Seasoned burglar / grifter / paedo receives tip off from criminal acquaintance regarding holy grail of apartments (see negligent actions of parents above), containing 3 unaccompanied children under the age of 4, plans meticulously on his own phone (for over 30 minutes) to steal child and nothing else, commits various nefarious acts, disposes of dead child.
4. Seasoned burglar / grifter / paedo / rapist receives tip off from criminal acquaintance regarding holy grail of apartments (see negligent actions of parents above), containing 3 unaccompanied children under the age of 4, plans meticulously on his own phone (for over 30 minutes) to steal child and nothing else, commits various nefarious acts, takes pictures  / videos of, then disposes of dead child.

One of these ways?

[The General]

The way I see it is you are fixated on what The German investigator (HCW) is saying i.e. that they have evidence CB murdered her or something along that line.

With that you must be reluctant to accept Madeleine could be still alive.   Can there be a theory where you have both dead and alive girls that could be confused in some way?     I used to think so, but it gets even more difficult to understand how this worked if CB is involved with both the living and the deceased child.

I would like to see what the evidence is that HCW says he has.  Could the deceased child be the one that looks like Madeleine so Madeline can remain alive taking the other's place in a family.   That gets very difficult to take.

You seem to be re-postulating the previously asserted 'Schrodinger's Maddie' theory.
I think the consensus among 'septic sceptics' and so called 'McCannerettes'  is that she is, alas, dead. We should always start there and any fanciful theories contrary to that should be dismissed.

...and I wouldn't trust Taschi to sell pencils from a cup in the car park. The man is clearly on the ching ching train.

[Robittybob1]

1. Opportunist paedo happens upon the boozing antics of negligent parents, snatches child, commits various nefarious acts, disposes of dead child.
2. Common or garden burglar / paedo stumbles upon the holy grail of apartments (see negligent actions of parents above), containing 3 unaccompanied children under the age of 4, steals child and nothing else, commits various nefarious acts, disposes of dead child.
3. Seasoned burglar / grifter / paedo receives tip off from criminal acquaintance regarding holy grail of apartments (see negligent actions of parents above), containing 3 unaccompanied children under the age of 4, plans meticulously on his own phone (for over 30 minutes) to steal child and nothing else, commits various nefarious acts, disposes of dead child.
4. Seasoned burglar / grifter / paedo / rapist receives tip off from criminal acquaintance regarding holy grail of apartments (see negligent actions of parents above), containing 3 unaccompanied children under the age of 4, plans meticulously on his own phone (for over 30 minutes) to steal child and nothing else, commits various nefarious acts, takes pictures  / videos of, then disposes of dead child.

One of these ways?

According to Tatschl Christian B wanted to get rich.  I can't see how any of those 4 scenarios make him any richer.

How does CB end up with the Winnebago?

[The General]

According to Tatschl Christian B wanted to get rich.  I can't see how any of those 4 scenarios make him any richer.

See my later post re: Taschi.
How in the name of Clarence the Cross-Eyed Lion would stealing a child make anyone rich?
It would make you either dead or in prison. We are not dealing with a time-served child trafficker here,  with an elaborate and sophisticated network of accomplices and unlimited resources; this is a man who fiddles with himself in kids' playgrounds and boosts diesel from farms - he's a two-bit nonce / thief.
Taschi is cut from the same cloth, but probably exponentially more addled by booze and drugs, given his prolonged access to his liberty.

Winnebago? Has it been established he owned one, if so show me? Owning one and driving one are two distinct concepts. If he did, well there's many ways such an elaborate and conspicuous purchase could be funded, given his apparent low level connections.

[Mr Gray]

The way I see it is you are fixated on what The German investigator (HCW) is saying i.e. that they have evidence CB murdered her or something along that line.

With that you must be reluctant to accept Madeleine could be still alive.   Can there be a theory where you have both dead and alive girls that could be confused in some way?     I used to think so, but it gets even more difficult to understand how this worked if CB is involved with both the living and the deceased child.

I would like to see what the evidence is that HCW says he has.  Could the deceased child be the one that looks like Madeleine so Madeline can remain alive taking the other's place in a family.   That gets very difficult to take. 

Something as complicated as that may explain why CB never informed Tatschl as to what he had been up to.

Fixated...ridiculous comment. We don't need HCW to show that maddie is almost certainly dead... I think almost everyone would agree.